Funny thing is that after years of attempting to quit and trying the patch and the gum and tapering and everything short voodoo chants. I just stopped one day. I ran out of smokes and just refused to go buy more. I had also just gotten over a nasty case of bronchitis too. I did stay away from the bars for awhile and also avoided friends that smoke which in effect meant that I didn't really see any of my friends for a couple months.

Cinelli: are they decent frames?

Cinelli Frames
 

Mine is very decent. It is an "Omnium" design meaning it is suitable for various Track disciplines. Not as good as an event specific frame design but "good enough" for all the events in a Velodrome environment. What I think it translates to is that it is "perfect" for riding brake-less on the street. Quick handling and Oh! so pretty in the chrome accents. Not as high priced as other true track bikes but still more expensive than some of the braked fixed gear brethren out there. Surly,Bianchi Pista, De Bernardi, et: all. Nothing wrong with any of those bikes, just using them as an example of the "Dual Purpose" fixed/brakes issue on a lot of the lower priced fixed gear bikes out there. There are probably really no "bad" fixed gear bikes out there if they come from major makers, just different price/finish levels.IMHO



Fixedgearhead

I'm debating whether track geometry is actually good for riding around town. Last time I looked, the city wasnt a velodrome, so maybe there's a geometry out there for urban fixies that isn't just a track bike?

Just thought I'd put that thought out there :)

Before I went and sold it, my Basso track bike was amazing on the street.

MKRG,
you should seriously talk to my friend eric baar at groundup designs and get something custom. he would make you anything: track, cross, road, mountain, criterium... he has done it all. he charges 1300 for a custom track frame and fork. that would include it being powdercoated at spectrum, which is the best place in the state for powdercoating. they specialize in bikes. he's going to be doing a production run of some single speed 29"ers soon. since they'll be production they should be cheaper. like maybe 7ish for the frame only. he mostly does fillet brazed steel, but he can do titanium. he is a fantastic tig welder, but his brazes are utterly gorgeous. he actually has some aeromat tubing right now. i don't think they make that stuff anymore, but it is unbelieveably light and strong. it's like 68 rockwell. hard stuff. break the teeth off of a carbide steel hacksaw blade hard. i think the walls are .030" thick... very thin. he just made scott, xcutterx, a lugged track fork for his gios. it is stunning. anyways, checkout his site or give him a call. tell him chris referred you.

719.633.8904
www.groundupdesigns.com
(his site needs updating in the worst way though)

Cannondale makes a sweet s/s mtb, headshok, discs(I think) and a cool bareframe called the 1fg. Kona also has a nice s/s mtb out for this year.

Here's a great deal! ;)

http://www.bikeforums.net/showthread.php?t=47749

Well the problem is that I don't actually have the money. I just want to start looking so that when I do get the money (months at the very least) I'll know what I want. I may get lucky and find another great old frame to rescue for $10...who knows?

expensive frames
 

Has anyone had any experience with Circle @ Cycles? I sure enjoyed browsing their web site. I love pedalin, coastin, and even brakin, but I hate shiftin.

expensive frames
 

I plan on getting a cinelli for city use, but i'm a little unsure of the size. i ride, more or less, a 55cm road frame, but am not sure of sizing on cinelli. any help would be appreciated. Fixedgearhead, you ride a cinelli, what size? is it bigger, small er, or same as what you would ride in road bike?

thanks ,

tomb

I ride a Cinelli Supercorsa that is a road frame that I converted to fixed. It is 55cm. Also, I ride a Cinelli Olympic track that is 55 cm.
The only difference is that the BB is higher and that makes the overall height a little higher on the Track frame. The fork rake is also steeper so that makes it handle a bit quicker. They are made out of different tubing so the ride quality would be different anyway. That said, Italian road frames are rather quick handling as a rule. I find that the way I sit on the bike is exactly the same. Same stem length, almost the same seat height extension, Ect. There is a couple of mm difference in the seat height on the road frame, but that is not enough to warrant a size change in my opinion. I would not change the size of one at all. So, I would say that if you know what size road frame you like then buy that size. If you were going to ride it on a velodrome then you might go down one size as that seems to be the preference. Smaller size on the boards. For the street, same size.
Hope this helps.


fixedgearhead

thylacine, there are two fixies out one from condor http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/scarlett10.htm and then one from On One http://www.on-one.co.uk/products/ilpompino.shtml that i think are more geared for the street and urban usage

You're goink to BUY a bike Thylacine? ;)

for more money i'd probably get a 7cycles ti geared roadie
for 2k probably built up habanero