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straws papers 11-08-08 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by melon (Post 7808856)
its a one off custom. its inspired by hetchens bikes, but that one has pretty much every frame quirk going which i think is a bit untasteful. as is the matching wheels.

i also dont like the fact that it has a very curved seat tube, yet the wheel is miles away from it. whats the point haiving it that curved if the wheel doesnt fit into the space it opens up.

Even with a cutout on like a Concept or FTP it's actually more aerodynamic to not have it jammed up into the cutout. about 2 inches is apparently the most beneficial spacing. I used to have a copy of a paper and report on this but I lost them in a hard drive crash.

LeaderBike 11-08-08 02:18 PM

Maybe you do not belong in this forum
 
will repost

LeaderBike 11-08-08 02:19 PM

Maybe you do not belong on this forum
 

Originally Posted by dddave (Post 7813221)
leaders do not belong in the porn thread.

your ignorance is very amusing.

anthegreat1 11-08-08 02:25 PM

your mom belongs in the porn thread. OHHHHHH burn burnded ohhh

ok i'm done now

ProjectChud 11-09-08 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by bbattle (Post 7814252)
Awesome Falcon! I've read that wood rims really soak up road vibration; how do you like them?

I have no complaints whatsoever about the rims. You're exactly right about them soaking up road vibrations.
Wooden rims and a decent set of tubulars makes the perfect wheelset.

helloamerican 11-10-08 12:00 PM

sorry to derail but how are the wood rims on durability? i'd be worried one wrong pothole could end your wheel... is that not so?

zzoundss 11-10-08 06:56 PM

Are those rack mounts inside of the drop outs!?! Sooo beautiful.

adversity 11-10-08 11:52 PM

i was thinking the other day how sick a frame with arabic lettering or japanese kanji would look. anything like that ever been made?

straws papers 11-11-08 01:09 AM


Originally Posted by dougland89 (Post 7826478)
very true. excellent point.

and apparently Leader isnt going to post the type of tubing used on the new frame. Guess I'll just be getting that Bob Jackson then!

fixedude 11-11-08 02:47 AM


Originally Posted by adversity (Post 7828263)
i was thinking the other day how sick a frame with arabic lettering or japanese kanji would look. anything like that ever been made?

kanji has been done. aside from producing your own custom labels, you can order kanji/hiragana/katakana/alpha on new panasonics. don walker also did a custom label for someone's frame, but i forget if it was kanji/hiragana/katakana.

bbattle 11-11-08 05:42 AM


Originally Posted by bartonfink (Post 7813834)
Yes, these are reasonably nice frames. And no, you shouldn't be shilling on the porn thread.

But since you're here, you might as well take note of the fact that I can order an off-the-peg, custom-painted Bob Jackson track frame and fork in Reynolds 631 for around $700 shipped.

You guys are at least $100 high for what you're selling.

Unless you want to reveal the secret of what tubing is being used here. 725? 853?

http://www.worldclasscycles.com/js_track_crop.jpg

ProjectChud 11-11-08 10:37 AM


Originally Posted by helloamerican (Post 7823542)
sorry to derail but how are the wood rims on durability? i'd be worried one wrong pothole could end your wheel... is that not so?

I'm not exactly sure to be honest.
as far as i can tell they're about as strong as a decent carbon fiber rim.

markenduro 11-11-08 11:54 AM

Not sure if it's been posted before but this does it for me, its an Amaro bike, from Spain. Georgeous....

http://www.amarobikes.com/galeria/lollo2.jpg

http://www.amarobikes.com/galeria/lollo1.jpg

http://www.amarobikes.com/supermotarden.html

helloamerican 11-11-08 02:34 PM

am i missing the appeal of that amaro?
why? is my question.

chase. 11-11-08 03:06 PM

i think it [amaro] is a great concept— not for everyone, but awesome nonetheless.

streetdude 11-11-08 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by akcapbikeforums (Post 7831067)
So many beautiful bikes in this thread.

FYI: Bicycle di Fantastico www.albertodelbiondi.com

Realized by the Industrial Design Department of Alberto Del Biondi Industria Del Design in Italy,
this avant-garde concept plays on the latest bicycle materials and technology. The new
design is a minimalistic play on the typical city bike, using the concept of less is more to an
extreme degree. Lines are simple yet dynamic while the overall design is an exotic concept
that stimulates the imagination. The shape is extreme, flying in the face of classic bike iconography.

The bike’s makeup is primarily carbon based allowing for maximum weight reduction in the finished design.
Although carbon requires great expertise in modelling, in this scenario it allows Biondi the freedom to
work the non-traditional design in order to retain key flexibility characteristics and strength qualities.

The model is considered a ‘premium city bike’ for commuting and inner city touring.
The design provides a platform for an extensive rider base while
maintaining extreme styling and innovation.


http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XNKHZOoCW8...00/blondi3.jpg
http://www.sfilate.it/img/bike-003.jpg

so like, how does it go?

devilshaircut 11-11-08 04:02 PM

Based on the pictures and how I think being trained in ID, I would say it has an internally housed, chainless drivetrain that turns gears that make the rear wheel rotate, probably along the rim. The front wheel probably has the same mechanism for rolling, but without the drivetrain. The rim appears to be smooth though. But I am sure that is just some artistic license the renderer took. It is a beautiful bike and, as far as I can tell, perfectly mechanically feasible with existing technology. I am sure it would be expensive as hell to manufacture though.

EDIT: Although I would say since everything is so outlandish about this design anyhow, they should have picked more elegant wheels and integrated front and rear lights. With the internal gearing mechanism there is no reason to have a man-powered light involved also.

EDIT 2: Actually now that I look closer at the top render, it appears the teeth that the gears turn are located on the INSIDE of the rim. There would have to be some sort of bearings that contact the other surfaces of the wheel too though, along the sides of the rim, and the part of the wheel that contacts the ground.

streetdude 11-11-08 04:34 PM

ooh i see that now. pretty clever design, but i think it's ultimately made unnecessary by the beautiful simplicity of a regular bicycle. not that i'm against ingenuity/progress...

EDIT: that is, assuming that sort of drivetrain would require a secondary power source. does it? or is bike this some sort of ridiculous mechanical feat? i guess those green LEDs would point to some sort of electrical flow, though.

devilshaircut 11-11-08 04:46 PM

http://www.dynamicbicycles.com/

That particular technology already exists. It's just an internally housed drive shaft and gears, like in a car.

The mysterious part is making the contacts with the wheels work, not just for turning, but for transferring the load of the frame and rider to the wheels without impeding motion.

Jabba Degrassi 11-11-08 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by devilshaircut (Post 7832525)
http://www.dynamicbicycles.com/

That particular technology already exists. It's just an internally housed drive shaft and gears, like in a car.

The mysterious part is making the contacts with the wheels work, not just for turning, but for transferring the load of the frame and rider to the wheels without impeding motion.

My guess would be, if you look at the green dot where the frame contacts the wheel, there seems to be a black strip all along the inside of the the wheel. Maybe that strip takes the load and the silver portion of the wheel rotates around that on a series of cylindrical bearings?

the_don 11-11-08 08:25 PM

If u look at the point of contact for the wheel, where the little LED is, the black part of the rim is flat. So the black part in the rim can't spin. So that must be for support. I can only assume that the silver part of the rim can roll l over this area. How they transfer the power, maybe the other side of the frame is sticks out a bit more to allow for gearing.

Jabba Degrassi 11-11-08 08:27 PM


Originally Posted by the_don (Post 7833811)
If u look at the point of contact for the wheel, where the little LED is, the black part of the rim is flat. So the black part in the rim can't spin. So that must be for support. I can only assume that the silver part of the rim can roll l over this area. How they transfer the power, maybe the other side of the frame is sticks out a bit more to allow for gearing.

I once saw a motorcycle with a hollow wheel which driven by a roller which basically pressed against the tire and spun the tire around. I can't imagine it's very efficient, but that's one way it could be done.

helloamerican 11-11-08 08:39 PM

i would worry about the rims. they'd have to be heavy duty to stay round and true.


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