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misha misha 11-06-08 10:41 AM

Sanding the deep V's Smooth?
 
Hey folks!

I was wondering is it would be safe to sand down the little lip on my weinmanns?

Im using a picture from ebay, but i do the same rim:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...vcans1/lip.jpg

So, i would strip the paint first, then make the line between the braking surface and the rest of the rim seamless.

Would it make the rims not as strong? Affect antyhing? Is it safe?

Help me out

thanks

m-

twelsch42 11-06-08 10:45 AM

wft? why? troll?

planyourfate 11-06-08 10:50 AM

A) What lip are you speaking of?
B) Why would you want to do this?

jdms mvp 11-06-08 10:58 AM

it would probably work with a grinder... also it would only look decent if you did a pull polish after

Catnap 11-06-08 11:05 AM

stop. no. don't. that could fatally weaken the rims. if you want rims without a machined braking surface, there's plenty out there.

Thetank 11-06-08 11:11 AM

He's not doing this cause he wants rims without a machined surface, he's trying to do this to make his Weinmann's look more like Velocity rims. Don't do it, that lip you see is structural and if you start grinding away for the sake of looks you're gonna weaken the rim and kill yourself while you ride.

You want the look of Velocity rims . . . buy a set!

misha misha 11-06-08 11:24 AM

^^ are you talking about? Velosity's have a same lip... Im not trying to "make" my weels look like velosity.

I do want to do a full polish after, and i havent seem much wheels like that out there.

Thats what i thoguht about the structure as well, but its only like .5 mm off the wheels. And you dont need a grinder to do so. Its a soft alum. so 320 to 1500 on a block would do the job.

I polished plenty of car wheels in my life, no grinders.

twelsch42 11-06-08 11:31 AM


Originally Posted by misha misha (Post 7802280)
^^ are you talking about? Velosity's have a same lip... Im not trying to "make" my weels look like velosity.

If you "don't" want to make your "wheel's" look more velocity "then" why DO you want to do this? You'll "polish" them when you're done? Just leave the lip and strip and polish away. You'll hardly see "it".

gkelley 11-06-08 11:39 AM

seems like a good way to screw up your wheels, i vote no

jdms mvp 11-06-08 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by misha misha (Post 7802280)
^^ are you talking about? Velosity's have a same lip... Im not trying to "make" my weels look like velosity.

actually deep Vs dont have a pronounced lip like that.

and if you've done SOO many car wheels, then why are you asking bikeforums about a job that is essentially very feasible.

JayNev 11-06-08 11:42 AM

yeah just do it. even if you dont sand down that lip just polish them, you probably won't even be able to see the lip anyway

Mr Wiggles 11-06-08 11:45 AM

sounds like a solid idea, most guys are using these to smooth them out

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/b...le_Grinder.jpg

misha misha 11-06-08 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by jdms mvp (Post 7802379)
actually deep Vs dont have a pronounced lip like that.

and if you've done SOO many car wheels, then why are you asking bikeforums about a job that is essentially very feasible.

they do, its just not as big but you can see the line wheather its painted or machined lip.

Im asking the bike forums if its gonna screw up my bike wheels. Im not asking on how to do this job.

jdms mvp 11-06-08 12:06 PM

if you are thinking about making your wheels like the H+son rims then that's different.

deep Vs do no have a raised brake surface, on the machined rims they are flush.

whereas on deep Vs, there is a lil lip. (which is what i'm assuming you are sanding down..)

alheim 11-06-08 12:21 PM


Originally Posted by twelsch42 (Post 7801975)
wft? why? troll?

dude, this guy has a legit question, and you're calling him a troll? you're the troll here. he probably wants to do it for astethics, why else?

anyway, if you look at the cross section for this wheel:

http://i38.tinypic.com/2hx4nk7.jpg

it looks like you could sand it off, but carefully - there's not much material at the upper edge of that lip. it looks like that fatter, to some extent, part acts as a base to the V part of the rim, so you're not going to have as much strength after sanding. i wouldn't use a grinder, as it'll be too easy to take off too much material. if you plan to beat on these wheels afterwards, i would do so carefully (and thoroughly) at first and see if anything snaps

Mr Wiggles 11-06-08 12:30 PM

This is a bad idea no matter what, you're going to end up taking off metal from the mid section no matter what there's no other way to get it smooth without blocking the lip down. Look how conveniently they made that section the thinnest of them all, even if you sanded off a couple of mm on accident how thick is it to begin with? the rim will be prone to failure with weakened sidewalls

twelsch42 11-06-08 12:38 PM


Originally Posted by alheim (Post 7802666)
dude, this guy has a legit question, and you're calling him a troll? you're the troll here. he probably wants to do it for astethics, why else?

Seems like a troll because it's such an absurd question. The chance of ruining the structural integrity of a wheel, for aesthetics???!?!?!? Never, no way, no how. You don't even need to look at the section, or any do any further analysis.

gestalt assault 11-06-08 12:48 PM

they designed the rim that way so that it can support a certain load without failing...if you sand off that lip you will be making the walls thinner...making the rim weaker...and increasing the chances of your rim deforming, bending, or folding...

instead, focus your time and energy towards saving money so you can sell off those dp18s and afford real deep v's...

peabodypride 11-06-08 12:52 PM

This image makes clear that what you want to do is a stunningly bad idea.

http://img230.imageshack.us/img230/8575/2hx4nk7ow5.jpg

alheim 11-06-08 01:46 PM

i agree that it's a stunningly bad idea if you did it like peabody's drawing

i was thinking more like this, just to take the sharp lip off:

http://i33.tinypic.com/nytj01.jpg

.. i'm still not saying it's a great idea

Catnap 11-06-08 01:49 PM

three little words:

STOP

NO

DON'T

fordfasterr 11-06-08 02:56 PM

death by grinder.

BRANDUNE 11-06-08 03:18 PM

I have a set of DV's that were machined side wall, I didnt like the look so I sanded the edge and repainted them and they are fine...
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3022/...953541.jpg?v=0

...see

peabodypride 11-06-08 03:32 PM

Were they weinmanns?

BRANDUNE 11-06-08 03:38 PM

No they were/are Velocity, they didn't have as pronounced of a ridge as on the weinmanns


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