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Old 12-06-08, 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by adriano
if dropping that sort of dime, think about a softshell. i decided if im getting a softshell i might as well get a burton hook for $50!
The Burton Hook is awesome (and cheap), I just got one, but sleeves are too short when on a bike (I have pretty long arms though). Otherwise, it would be perfect.
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Originally Posted by bboysubhuman
https://urbanvelo.org/urban-velo-mess...ind-and-rider/

Those thumb holes are a little dorky.
A lot of hoodies have them though, at least they're functional.

Anyhow, it seems an appropriate amount for anything wool. But, as another poster stated, you can probably do better for cheaper with just a shell (I got one for $35 at Target that keeps me plenty warm), unless you live in a very very cold place.

Shells work by blocking the wind and rain. Unfortunately they are not breathable so your shirt is going to be drenched. Fortunately they don't hold any stench themselves.
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How is it functional? It only keeps the tops of your hands warm. I'd rather have warm fingers. Plus, you can't really wear gloves with them.
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It keeps your palms warm. If you don't like the holes, you don't need to use them
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Originally Posted by bboysubhuman
How is it functional? It only keeps the tops of your hands warm. I'd rather have warm fingers. Plus, you can't really wear gloves with them.
Do you guys even ride bikes? It keeps your sleeves from riding up when you're in the drops and also keeps cold air from riding up the sleeves. These two things are important when you're riding in the cold. Why couldn't you wear gloves with them?
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For that price get something made from polartec wind-pro. The patagonia is good too, tho I'm partial to Cloudveil or Arcteryx. Seriously, wind-pro is bad ass, it lasts forever. Hmm check out the Cloudveil Gridlock, or Arcteryx fugitive hoody or sniper pullover. Stay away from regular fleece, it pills and sucks in wind and water.
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Here I will do the work for you....

Fugitive Hoody

Sniper Pullover

Gridlock Jacket

I own the sniper and the gridlock. Worth every cent. The sniper I have had for 3 years now and it still looks brand new. The sniper blocks moisture a little better. I'd love to get the fugitive. All these look a lot better in person.
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Originally Posted by Ziemas
Do you guys even ride bikes? It keeps your sleeves from riding up when you're in the drops and also keeps cold air from riding up the sleeves.
I've never had that problem. Someone left a hoodie with those holes at my house. I wore it a few times and I couldn't comfortably wear my gloves and use the holes at the same time.
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Originally Posted by bboysubhuman
I've never had that problem. Someone left a hoodie with those holes at my house. I wore it a few times and I couldn't comfortably wear my gloves and use the holes at the same time.
Try it when it gets cold out.
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Originally Posted by Ziemas
Do you guys even ride bikes? It keeps your sleeves from riding up when you're in the drops and also keeps cold air from riding up the sleeves. These two things are important when you're riding in the cold. Why couldn't you wear gloves with them?
The more obvious solution is to wear a hoodie that actually fits as opposed to the trend of wearing **** thats two sizes too small.
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Fit depends on the person and clothing. I'm 6'0 155 lbs. I'm usually torn between a little too baggy or a little too short. I usually opt for baggy since I hate clothing that's too short. Even then, a long sleeve shirt that fits me perfectly through my daily activities will most likely stretch up above my wrist an inch or two when I'm stretched out on my bike.

This doesn't bother me in California, because I don't really get a winter here. But That would be a problem if I did have a winter.
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Originally Posted by dobber
The more obvious solution is to wear a hoodie that actually fits as opposed to the trend of wearing **** thats two sizes too small.
On shirt or jacket that fits properly the sleeves will ride up when your arms are outstretched. If not, then the sleeves will be for too long when your arms aren't stretched. Try it for yourself.....
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it's funny how "messenger wear" is usually overpriced garbage that any real messenger wouldn't be caught dead rocking. the same $20 carhartt hoody that helped me work through last winter is doing the same this winter.
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Originally Posted by Cy Trivialities
i definitely understand that argument, but i think i'd take patagonia's guarentee over something from Urbanvelo every time.
Agreed, but the messenger is not made by UrbanVelo, it is made by Earth, Wind and Rider and through a special run, the UrbanVelo stuff is embroidered on. In reality it is cheaper through EWR ($110.00). Several asked the question why wool ... here is a FAQ from the EWR Website (you can find one that is pretty much identical at any wool clothing website) https://www.earthwindandrider.com/pages.php?pageid=5 . I did notice EWR is a US based company, they use New Zealand Merino Wool and the Wool Garments are sewn in China. This is the same path Patagonia takes i.e New Zealand to China to market.
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Originally Posted by JHG57
Agreed, but the messenger is not made by UrbanVelo, it is made by Earth, Wind and Rider and through a special run, the UrbanVelo stuff is embroidered on. In reality it is cheaper through EWR ($110.00).
There's two versions of the EWR hoodie - the UrbanVelo one is the one with side pockets (see here) which is $150 through EWR... so you're actually saving $5.

Comparing merino stuff to synthetics is totally apples and oranges. I don't really see the point of a hooded jersey if you ride with a helmet, but the plastic shells that people are posting seem like they'd be a vile stinksuit in 10 minutes. You can't beat wool for anything (except cost).
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Originally Posted by dmg
There's two versions of the EWR hoodie - the UrbanVelo one is the one with side pockets (see here) which is $150 through EWR... so you're actually saving $5.

Comparing merino stuff to synthetics is totally apples and oranges. I don't really see the point of a hooded jersey if you ride with a helmet, but the plastic shells that people are posting seem like they'd be a vile stinksuit in 10 minutes. You can't beat wool for anything (except cost).
Ahh I missed the 2 versions, good catch The Wool vs syn. argument has gone on for years with both sides being pretty emphatic that they are right ... truth is, I own both and both have merits. That said I do prefer wool next to my skin and will sometimes wear a wool garment and then a vented syn shell over it for added rain protection. Wool will keep you warm when it is wet but I prefer to stay dry especially in adverse weather conditions.
Edited to Add: I really don't see the need for the hood either unless you were going to use the garment for multiple activities.

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Originally Posted by Ziemas
Do you guys even ride bikes? It keeps your sleeves from riding up when you're in the drops and also keeps cold air from riding up the sleeves. These two things are important when you're riding in the cold. Why couldn't you wear gloves with them?
Nope, not most of the time. Normally I just post about me riding a bike, and I think it's good enogh.

The thing that keeps me from riding bikes is I can't decifer what I should be wearing while riding one of the 5 bikes I have.

When I ride flatland, it's hard to figure out if I look like a flatlander enough. I usually watch the Dew Tour on TV, but those guys are dirt/street/vert riders, which is obviously different than flatlanders. Plus I'm 33 years old riding a 20" bike, so how can that be cool? I try to be cool by doing hang-fives, hitchhikers, and other rolling combinations, but it's all about looking like a flatlander, too.

Then I get on my road bike. I have a bunch of Pearl Izumi stuff, but I don't have a multi-color, matching jersey with a sponsor on the back to go along with it like, "Toyota" or "Specialized" or a local bike shop's name. That's what road riders wear, and if I can't wear it, that doesn't make me a road rider.

I have two cruisers - a 26" Felt Scythe chopper and a custom Schwinn build with 700c wheels that ressembles an Industrial that I use for running around. These are the easiest to dress to match with since I can wear my normal street clothes with them. These are the only bikes that I feel comfortable dressing to match. Although, when going up hills, sweaty sponsored road riders get happy when they "drop" me.

Now this messenger clothing. Wow, it's really difficult, because, first, my quads are almost 30 inches around, so I can't wear skin tight jeans, so I wear the same cycling specific clothing I wear when I ride my road bike. Plus, I have road pedals on my fixed gear, and unless they start making checkered Vans with cleats, my dreams of looking more messenger-like when riding my fixed gear are gone. I also wear a helmet when I ride fixed, and not a Campy hat with a flipped up bill, so you can see where I'm having trouble.

I one time was riding and said "What's up?" to some fixed gear messengers. I knew they were real messengers because their bikes were neon green and orange with matching Oury grips on 8 inch wide risers. Then they looked at me and said, "Hey man, what's that thing on the front of your bike?" and I replied "A brake..." They rode away laughing and calling me a poser.

What's a boy to do?

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I'd pay $5 extra to get the version without the lame "Urban Velo" logo.

I actually have the Fugitive hoody and while it's pretty nice, it's a little short in the front. Next time I'd opt for one of the wool ones that are a bit longer.
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Originally Posted by Dion Rides
Nope, not most of the time. Normally I just post about me riding a bike, and I think it's good enogh.

The thing that keeps me from riding bikes is I can't decifer what I should be wearing while riding one of the 5 bikes I have.

When I ride flatland, it's hard to figure out if I look like a flatlander enough. I usually watch the Dew Tour on TV, but those guys are dirt/street/vert riders, which is obviously different than flatlanders. Plus I'm 33 years old riding a 20" bike, so how can that be cool? I try to be cool by doing hang-fives, hitchhikers, and other rolling combinations, but it's all about looking like a flatlander, too.

Then I get on my road bike. I have a bunch of Pearl Izumi stuff, but I don't have a multi-color, matching jersey with a sponsor on the back to go along with it like, "Toyota" or "Specialized" or a local bike shop's name. That's what road riders wear, and if I can't wear it, that doesn't make me a road rider.

I have two cruisers - a 26" Felt Scythe chopper and a custom Schwinn build with 700c wheels that ressembles an Industrial that I use for running around. These are the easiest to dress to match with since I can wear my normal street clothes with them. These are the only bikes that I feel comfortable dressing to match. Although, when going up hills, sweaty sponsored road riders get happy when they "drop" me.

Now this messenger clothing. Wow, it's really difficult, because, first, my quads are 30 inches around, so I can't wear skin tight jeans, so I wear the same cycling specific clothing I wear when I ride my road bike. Plus, I have road pedals on my fixed gear, and unless they start making checkered Vans with cleats, my dreams of looking more messenger-like when riding my fixed gear are gone. I also wear a helmet when I ride fixed, and not a Campy hat with a flipped up bill, so you can see where I'm having trouble.

I one time was riding and said "What's up?" to some fixed gear messengers. I knew they were real messengers because their bikes were neon green and orange with matching Oury grips on 8 inch wide risers. Then they looked at me and said, "Hey man, what's that thing on the front of your bike?" and I replied "A brake..." They rode away laughing and calling me a poser.

What's a boy to do?
I think you've mistaken me for someone else......my jacket with thumb loops is this one.



https://www.taigaworks.ca/cart.php?m...t_detail&p=162
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https://www.earthwindandrider.net/pro...cat=210&page=1

Their hoodie is great, but the stitching came apart in two places within weeks. EWR kindly took it back and repaired the hoodie, but it took over two months to get it back. Another seam has split, and I simply don't want to deal with a lengthy repair that should be taken care of quickly. I might repair it this time around, but I shouldn't have to do such a thing for its price.
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dion rides post was awesome.

Staying on topic, if you must get the blank one. And merino > regular cotton. Though I also rotate polartech and synthetics. For something similar but probably not as trendy, look at TAD Gear's Praetorian hoodies.
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I really want to buy the mountain hard wear super power hoodie.

it's partly fleece and partly four way stretch fabric, and it's got reflectors. it also has deep thumb loops and well placed pockets for cycling.

it's pretty technical looking but it's also long and stretchy enough to cycle in. it's 120. i'd much rather have this than merino wool because honestly neither one is going to keep you dry in the rain and they'll each do a comparably good job of keeping you warm.

but again, it's a lot of money for a hoodie. at least this one looks a little more special.

and better something like that than pay 300 at rei for the mammut ultimate hoodie:

which is some crazy nice thin stretchy softshell, but is 180 on shady online retailers. that's a ton of money.
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