Hipster article in Ad Buster.
#26
i remember in the 90's growing up i always got so much **** for being a skateboarder, "skate or die dude!!" or "rock on bro" or "do a kick-flip" was constantly shouted at me, my shoes were also criticized and same with my style "skater ***" why dont you wear fubu or jnco like us? anyways now skateboarding is cool and socially acceptable, p.c. if you will. its strange. Anyways i have a feeling this whole hipster thing will be the same way, eventually a new fad will come about that they can pigeon hole and lump into a group to exploit or insult, and hipsters will be another forgotten label, like "skaters" "jocks" "preps" "rockers" "nerds" and all the other labels i thought died in middle-school.
i guess my point is, human nature will hate something/someone who is different so no matter what you do someone is defiantly gonna hate you so don't sweat it, eventually something else will catch their hate and so the cycle continues.
i guess my point is, human nature will hate something/someone who is different so no matter what you do someone is defiantly gonna hate you so don't sweat it, eventually something else will catch their hate and so the cycle continues.
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#27
meh
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i remember in the 90's growing up i always got so much **** for being a skateboarder, "skate or die dude!!" or "rock on bro" or "do a kick-flip" was constantly shouted at me, my shoes were also criticized and same with my style "skater ***" why dont you wear fubu or jnco like us? anyways now skateboarding is cool and socially acceptable, p.c. if you will. its strange. Anyways i have a feeling this whole hipster thing will be the same way, eventually a new fad will come about that they can pigeon hole and lump into a group to exploit or insult, and hipsters will be another forgotten label, like "skaters" "jocks" "preps" "rockers" "nerds" and all the other labels i thought died in middle-school.
i guess my point is, human nature will hate something/someone who is different so no matter what you do someone is defiantly gonna hate you so don't sweat it, eventually something else will catch their hate and so the cycle continues.
i guess my point is, human nature will hate something/someone who is different so no matter what you do someone is defiantly gonna hate you so don't sweat it, eventually something else will catch their hate and so the cycle continues.
#30
ahh i see what you did there, i was gonna correct you on your spelling of "douch" but i didn't realize they automatically censor you on here.
i wear 510's and ride a track bike, there's nothing for me to try justify, i know thats "hipsterish". people can call me a hipster, i could care less. My question for you is, what justification do you have for insulting people because of how they choose to dress or live?. that is what seems to constitute being a "douch" to me.
i wear 510's and ride a track bike, there's nothing for me to try justify, i know thats "hipsterish". people can call me a hipster, i could care less. My question for you is, what justification do you have for insulting people because of how they choose to dress or live?. that is what seems to constitute being a "douch" to me.
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#31
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i remember in the 90's growing up i always got so much **** for being a skateboarder, "skate or die dude!!" or "rock on bro" or "do a kick-flip" was constantly shouted at me, my shoes were also criticized and same with my style "skater ***" why dont you wear fubu or jnco like us? anyways now skateboarding is cool and socially acceptable, p.c. if you will. its strange. Anyways i have a feeling this whole hipster thing will be the same way, eventually a new fad will come about that they can pigeon hole and lump into a group to exploit or insult, and hipsters will be another forgotten label, like "skaters" "jocks" "preps" "rockers" "nerds" and all the other labels i thought died in middle-school.
i guess my point is, human nature will hate something/someone who is different so no matter what you do someone is defiantly gonna hate you so don't sweat it, eventually something else will catch their hate and so the cycle continues.
i guess my point is, human nature will hate something/someone who is different so no matter what you do someone is defiantly gonna hate you so don't sweat it, eventually something else will catch their hate and so the cycle continues.
#33
meh
Joined: Nov 2008
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From: nyc
ahh i see what you did there, i was gonna correct you on your spelling of "douch" but i didn't realize they automatically censor you on here.
i wear 510's and ride a track bike, there's nothing for me to try justify, i know thats "hipsterish". people can call me a hipster, i could care less. My question for you is, what justification do you have for insulting people because of how they choose to dress or live?. that is what seems to constitute being a "douch" to me.
i wear 510's and ride a track bike, there's nothing for me to try justify, i know thats "hipsterish". people can call me a hipster, i could care less. My question for you is, what justification do you have for insulting people because of how they choose to dress or live?. that is what seems to constitute being a "douch" to me.
#34
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This is a thread about hipsters, culture, counterculture, scenes, fads, fashion and lifestyles. His post wasn't out of place, yours was.
Fly away, troll.
#37
i would rather read VICE. at least they know they are a bunch of ****heads.
i hate how having a fixed gear bicycle = lifestyle.
i got a pregnant wife, a 2 year old son and a mortgage. and a fixed gear bicycle. trust you dont know me based off one of my possessions.
i hate how having a fixed gear bicycle = lifestyle.
i got a pregnant wife, a 2 year old son and a mortgage. and a fixed gear bicycle. trust you dont know me based off one of my possessions.
#39
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i think they hit it on the head somewhat -- especially when alluding to the ubiquity of the culture.
I think the reason it's so reviled by the previous generation (s) is that being a hipster is actually so mainstream -- it's not a counter-culture that was eventually commercialized like it's predecessors, its a mainstream culture posing as a counter-culture that actually evolved out of consumerism in the fist place.
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In fact, if you really look at Vice it's a conservative-leaning piece of consumerist normalizing crap that says nothing but buy this, don't buy that.
I think the reason it's so reviled by the previous generation (s) is that being a hipster is actually so mainstream -- it's not a counter-culture that was eventually commercialized like it's predecessors, its a mainstream culture posing as a counter-culture that actually evolved out of consumerism in the fist place.
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In fact, if you really look at Vice it's a conservative-leaning piece of consumerist normalizing crap that says nothing but buy this, don't buy that.
#42
I find it amusing that Adbusters is talking about hipsters. I find that anyone that buys into their ideas to be the epitome of hipsters. Young urban middle/upper class interested non mainstream culture perfectly describes their target audience.
#43
you should have seen the **** stir up that happened when that article came out. all the photos were shot in my city and about 1/3 of the people photographed are my friends.. people just couldn't shut up about it. i can think of about 20 people that bought an adbusters for the first time just to see who was really in the article. good marketing tactic, hah!
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WOW, where to start...
i acknowledge that i'm new here and may have little "street cred" but here goes...
there are too many posts to quote so i'll just have a stream of conscious moment here ala "on the road"...
pushing 40, i feel i must be the the oldest in this thread. I have lived through the end of the hippies, was a late commer to punk, thrived through new wave, couldn't afford to skate or surf, dug hard on the athen's scene (rem, pylon etc), embrased hip hop,flirted with grunge, saw the beginings of computers with pong, atari, nintendo, and sega.
i remember when skating was fun and cool and loved by everyone, when it was exciting when people built halfpipes in their backyard, hell there were even parks that played AOR music. then in the 80's, the parks closed and kids got kicked outta city parks and other places they should not have been in, and now there are 2 parks owned by county...
to get closer to my point, every generation has it counter cultural movement, jazz had Hep_cats, Kerouac accidently named the Beats, Richard_Hell belonged to the Blank_Generation, billy idol named his band Generation_X (after Jane Deverson's 1965 sociology book), while today's hipster is part of what has been called Generation_Y, many would agree i'm sure that does not just mean you come after us but that we are constantly looking over at, not down at you wondering "Y"?
what we have realized is that in some ways you can't avoid swallowing the crap that the previous generations shovel at you, we have all fallen victum to this, our frustration with the hipsters is that for the first time in our memory there is a chance to actually do something globally, socially, to really take full responsability for our own collective impact on our tiny part of the universe and most "hipsters" are too self absorbed in how cool everything is while playing the pauper...
and many of us are bustin' our knutz trying to get by, it's like nero as rome burns WTF?
sorry just my inner anthropologist clawing its way out...
two books we should all read On_The_Road and Velvets-Voidoids-Pre-Punk-History-Post-Punk
and for good measure Go-Now-Richard-Hell
i acknowledge that i'm new here and may have little "street cred" but here goes...
there are too many posts to quote so i'll just have a stream of conscious moment here ala "on the road"...
pushing 40, i feel i must be the the oldest in this thread. I have lived through the end of the hippies, was a late commer to punk, thrived through new wave, couldn't afford to skate or surf, dug hard on the athen's scene (rem, pylon etc), embrased hip hop,flirted with grunge, saw the beginings of computers with pong, atari, nintendo, and sega.
i remember when skating was fun and cool and loved by everyone, when it was exciting when people built halfpipes in their backyard, hell there were even parks that played AOR music. then in the 80's, the parks closed and kids got kicked outta city parks and other places they should not have been in, and now there are 2 parks owned by county...
to get closer to my point, every generation has it counter cultural movement, jazz had Hep_cats, Kerouac accidently named the Beats, Richard_Hell belonged to the Blank_Generation, billy idol named his band Generation_X (after Jane Deverson's 1965 sociology book), while today's hipster is part of what has been called Generation_Y, many would agree i'm sure that does not just mean you come after us but that we are constantly looking over at, not down at you wondering "Y"?
what we have realized is that in some ways you can't avoid swallowing the crap that the previous generations shovel at you, we have all fallen victum to this, our frustration with the hipsters is that for the first time in our memory there is a chance to actually do something globally, socially, to really take full responsability for our own collective impact on our tiny part of the universe and most "hipsters" are too self absorbed in how cool everything is while playing the pauper...
and many of us are bustin' our knutz trying to get by, it's like nero as rome burns WTF?
sorry just my inner anthropologist clawing its way out...
two books we should all read On_The_Road and Velvets-Voidoids-Pre-Punk-History-Post-Punk
and for good measure Go-Now-Richard-Hell
#47
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At the same time, it's not surprising that it's so hard to grab their attention for more than a few weeks at a time. Adbusters does hit one nail on the head: Culture is constantly being co-opted.
Instant communication is so easy these days it seems entirely possible a fad could be born, live and die betweeen the time you enter a club and the time you leave it. It used to take years for fads and countercultures to be noticed by big business, merchandized, marketed and exploited to the point where market saturation left behind nothing but a bunch of new crap in the landfill and a handful of now even more disenfranchised kids who started it all and had their identities stolen from them.
How long can a movement last once it's been packaged and marketed by big business? In a sense, acceptance is one of the best ways to curb rebellion. How fast do you think the average teenager would pull out their nose-ring if suddenly their mom came home with a stud in her nostril? Similarly, how long can an anti-consumerism/civil rights/animal rights/environmentalist movement last once it's been co-opted by big business and marketed back to you in prime time?
Instant communication is so easy these days it seems entirely possible a fad could be born, live and die betweeen the time you enter a club and the time you leave it. It used to take years for fads and countercultures to be noticed by big business, merchandized, marketed and exploited to the point where market saturation left behind nothing but a bunch of new crap in the landfill and a handful of now even more disenfranchised kids who started it all and had their identities stolen from them.
How long can a movement last once it's been packaged and marketed by big business? In a sense, acceptance is one of the best ways to curb rebellion. How fast do you think the average teenager would pull out their nose-ring if suddenly their mom came home with a stud in her nostril? Similarly, how long can an anti-consumerism/civil rights/animal rights/environmentalist movement last once it's been co-opted by big business and marketed back to you in prime time?
#49
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although hardly relevant to bikes,
the conversation with the hipster girls where they treat the word Hipster like it's a racial slur is pretty hilarious...
I'll admit I got caught up in some of the hipster bull*****. The fashion, the attitude, etc. Did I deny the fact that I was a hipster? Probably. But I think this article was pretty awesome, and gave me a laugh at something I could definitely attribute to myself a year or so ago.
the conversation with the hipster girls where they treat the word Hipster like it's a racial slur is pretty hilarious...
I'll admit I got caught up in some of the hipster bull*****. The fashion, the attitude, etc. Did I deny the fact that I was a hipster? Probably. But I think this article was pretty awesome, and gave me a laugh at something I could definitely attribute to myself a year or so ago.
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um, i duno, what if it would creat more jobs, better economy, cleaner environment *(killing joke eighties plays in background)*, i think the sky is the limit, a real global rewrite of what it means to exist



