Why Toe Clips?
#1
Why Toe Clips?
I'm 51, so I am familiar with toe straps because that was all that was available decades ago. Recently, I opted to return to the platforms-and-toe-clips-world on my fixie. I don't get it: I vastly prefer my clipless pedals for any rides over a few miles. Is it a fashion thing or is there a convenience factor for messengers walking in office buildings? Or is it something else, like a hunger for a nostalgic time that never was? And while I'm at it, after five years of riding nothing but Brooks saddles, I'm perched on plastic and liking 'em better. Sheesh.
signed, Clueless and Clipless
signed, Clueless and Clipless
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Though I've never ridden clipless, being able to hop off my bike and run around in my super comfy skate shoes is very appealing. Most of my rides are reasonably short and I do a lot of stopping and walking around.
A few of my co-workers ride to work clipless and they all bring an extra pair of shoes.
A few of my co-workers ride to work clipless and they all bring an extra pair of shoes.
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I ride clipless, but I can see why people would use clips. I use specialized Sonoma2 shoes and while very comfortable (and most people think they look cool
) they are still nowhere hear normal shoes. Also, if you commute, you sometimes want a bit more flexibility when picking your shoes.
My solution is MTB pedals with a platform cage, but that is still far from optimal.
I guess that it is a question of what you use your bike for, I can't imagine going to a club on bike shoes (although noone would know they are). On any sort of longer ride you want those clipless pedals though.
Maybe the solution would be a platform pedal with a clipless system (I think those exist) with maybe an easily removable cage? ....Sounds like something someone already made.
) they are still nowhere hear normal shoes. Also, if you commute, you sometimes want a bit more flexibility when picking your shoes.My solution is MTB pedals with a platform cage, but that is still far from optimal.
I guess that it is a question of what you use your bike for, I can't imagine going to a club on bike shoes (although noone would know they are). On any sort of longer ride you want those clipless pedals though.
Maybe the solution would be a platform pedal with a clipless system (I think those exist) with maybe an easily removable cage? ....Sounds like something someone already made.
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I'm 51, so I am familiar with toe straps because that was all that was available decades ago. Recently, I opted to return to the platforms-and-toe-clips-world on my fixie. I don't get it: I vastly prefer my clipless pedals for any rides over a few miles. Is it a fashion thing or is there a convenience factor for messengers walking in office buildings? Or is it something else, like a hunger for a nostalgic time that never was? And while I'm at it, after five years of riding nothing but Brooks saddles, I'm perched on plastic and liking 'em better. Sheesh.
signed, Clueless and Clipless
signed, Clueless and Clipless
the ONLY convenience of clips and straps is that you can walk in "normal" shoes....
efficiency of clipless > efficiency of clips and straps
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I rode with clips and straps for years, and, with the availability of clipless pedals and shoes it no longer makes sense.
That said, my son rides his geared bike with clips and straps because he rides in running shoes and runs a lot.
I wear Mountain Bike shoes and sandals, and I can spend the day in them comfortably.
At work I keep a pair of work shoes for appearances.
In my humble opinion, those who ride with clips and straps do so for fashion reasons and not for practicality.
That said, my son rides his geared bike with clips and straps because he rides in running shoes and runs a lot.
I wear Mountain Bike shoes and sandals, and I can spend the day in them comfortably.
At work I keep a pair of work shoes for appearances.
In my humble opinion, those who ride with clips and straps do so for fashion reasons and not for practicality.
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Though I've never ridden clipless, being able to hop off my bike and run around in my super comfy skate shoes is very appealing. Most of my rides are reasonably short and I do a lot of stopping and walking around.
A few of my co-workers ride to work clipless and they all bring an extra pair of shoes.
A few of my co-workers ride to work clipless and they all bring an extra pair of shoes.
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Even Toshi double straps are usually cheaper than a decent set of clipless pedals and shoes.
My reasoning was thus: Get a decent set of clips and straps, and when I can afford to, get a clipless set-up. Use clipless most of the time, and keep the clips and straps in case I want to go riding on the island or do some other casual riding.
The fact that my Exile came with clipless pedals sped up the whole process. Just shopping around for a pair of pedals for the Angus now.
My reasoning was thus: Get a decent set of clips and straps, and when I can afford to, get a clipless set-up. Use clipless most of the time, and keep the clips and straps in case I want to go riding on the island or do some other casual riding.
The fact that my Exile came with clipless pedals sped up the whole process. Just shopping around for a pair of pedals for the Angus now.
#9
The reason I ride non-clipless is because I am not a flashy guy. I don't like the looks of clipless shoes, so when I go out, I wear simple white leather sneakers. I want simple shoes that I can easily walk in. If I am commuting, I have shoes at work to put on, if I am going for a bike ride, I will wear clipless, if I am meeting friends at a bar, etc. or going shopping, I will wear my simple white sneakers and use a bike with the clips or powergrips. I just don't care to wear clipless shoes when off of the bike.
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Because one has not graduated to clip-less... I find straps awkward to the point, I might crash into something.
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Really? I've always found the opposite. I've never found the retention good enough with clips, and i never quite trust them. I therefore end up doing the straps up really tight, which in turn makes it harder for me to get out of them. I also find them a PITA the get into in a hurry (riding fixed)
#14
I ride with clips and straps, I do it because I don't like the idea of carrying around an extra pair of shoes all day. I don't drive, all my commuting is done by bicycle, whether its to work, the store, for fun, or to see friends etc. Clipless commuting just seems strange to me. I don't wanna have to change in and out of shoes every time i get on and off my bicycle, nor do i want to lug around a sweaty pair of bike shoes with me in backpack when i am hanging out with my friends, so what i (and MANY other people) use a bike for, clipless makes no sense. If I was, say, racing my bike or something along those lines I would consider using clipless as i am sure they do have their advantages.
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Don't feel like I should need special shoes for riding a bike. Generally I'm going somewhere not riding in the tour de france or anything. Shoes and clipless pedals seem like way overkill. Hell I prefer platforms without clips when riding my single speed but clips and straps are needed for fixed and brakeless.
Probably a reaction to all the guys in their matching spandax clicking around the local coffee shop and looking like idiots.
Probably a reaction to all the guys in their matching spandax clicking around the local coffee shop and looking like idiots.
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I think it is a matter of preference, I don't think clips and straps are anymore fashionable than having a matching bike/spandex/clipless-shoes/helmet etc. All fashion aside, clips and straps work for what my bike is used for, spandex and clipless might work better for someone else.
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i don't drive, all my commuting is done by bicycle, whether its to work, the store, for fun, or to see friends etc. Clipless commuting just seems strange to me. I don't wanna have to change in and out of shoes every time i get on and off my bicycle, nor do i want to lug around a sweaty pair of bike shoes with me in backpack when i am hanging out with my friends, so what i (and many other people) use a bike for, clipless makes no sense.
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Worked great. Mostly though I'm riding for significantly less than 3 hours so normal clothes and shoes make a lot more sense.
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I think straps are used because old fixed bikes that were converted likely had them already when converted (back in the day when clipless wasn't really like it is today). My guess is it has turned into a modern trend based on a vintage look.
#21
The only bike of mine that has clips and straps is my townie.
Then get mountain shoes with the recessed cleat.
I commute 25 miles a day, clips and straps are strange to me.
Have you even tried riding clipless on the street, they're vastly better if you're actually on the bike most of the time.
Seriously?
Seriously?
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I generally ride in the city, so bike straps and clip bike is also a townie i guess.
the whole point of riding clips and straps for me is so I DONT have to buy/wear new shoes to ride my bike.
i do close to the same, most days. clipless seems strange to me.
No, like i said, im sure clipless has its advantages, but it also has its disadvantages too, i.e. having to purchase special pedals and purchase special shoes that you then have to lug around anytime you ride your bike.
the whole point of riding clips and straps for me is so I DONT have to buy/wear new shoes to ride my bike.
i do close to the same, most days. clipless seems strange to me.
No, like i said, im sure clipless has its advantages, but it also has its disadvantages too, i.e. having to purchase special pedals and purchase special shoes that you then have to lug around anytime you ride your bike.
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In fact I have, I've done a couple of centuries on my fixed gear. When I did those, I wore some padded underwear under some cut off shorts and some sort of poly t-shirt from EMS or Patagonia. Same sort of shirt I wear when I run or hike.
Worked great. Mostly though I'm riding for significantly less than 3 hours so normal clothes and shoes make a lot more sense.
Worked great. Mostly though I'm riding for significantly less than 3 hours so normal clothes and shoes make a lot more sense.
My commute to work is an hour each way, and my weekend rides are usually between 3 and 4 hours. I'm still doing it in sneakers, but not for long. As for the spandex, you can pry it from my cold, dead hands.





