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Old 01-12-09, 05:49 PM
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Gr-9s plus Toshi singles!
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Old 01-12-09, 05:51 PM
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Your right, you ARE taking the WAY to seriously. If it help any I apologize for the
Apology accepted. Sorry for over-reacting. BFF?
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no emoticons allowed from now on due to misinterpretation.

i don't understand the soft sole sylvan track hate- i never have any complaints with mine... weird...
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Old 01-12-09, 08:17 PM
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I don't hate it, per se. But I do notice a bit of discomfort after a few hours in the saddle, and it's starting to wear little holes into my shoes.
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Old 01-12-09, 08:26 PM
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Old 01-13-09, 02:40 AM
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I just asking, what do you think good pedals & toe-clips products by SOMA??
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Old 01-13-09, 09:43 AM
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to be completely honest, after owning all types of pedals all you pay for is build quality. better build quality = better aestetics.

i currently use cheap MKS sylvians and they are no better/worse than any of the expensive **** out there. i probably wouldnt do a 30,000 mile tour on them, but in any other situation they are perfectly fine. just get pedals that suit your riding and shoe type. if your riding the road i wouldnt reccomend MTB platfrom style, go for some narrow road/track pedals.

the whole toshi doubles being an investment is also bollocks, theyre only toe straps. i have toshi doubles myself just becuase i wanted some fancy straps. before that i used two nylon straps with a DIY doublisers made from an old leather belt, and they did me fine for over a year, and dont feel any diffrent to my toshis. even if your nylon ones do manage to wear, is it that bad to spend 7 on new straps and replace them once every 6 months.

also remember that double straps are a fairly new to average joe cycling, none of the greats of the old days used them. its mainly through the jap keirin craze that theyve been popularised. where doubles are great is that they feel more secure when you dont have the done up really tight. in the old days of racing with singles they would have done them up really tight, but on our average joe cycling were more likely to want to get out of our straps more often so wont do them neally as tight.


if your new to fixed riding dont bother with fancy pedals or toshis and spend that money elsewhere on componants that matter. you can get these later when you want to build up a pimp ride.
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Old 01-13-09, 09:50 AM
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I use: MKS GR-9s with MKS steel clips and cheapo nylon Nashbar straps.
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Old 01-13-09, 09:57 AM
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+1 for the GR-9s and MKS metal clips. Cheap and solid.
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Originally Posted by timothyday View Post
+1 for the GR-9s and MKS metal clips. Cheap and solid.
Running the same setup and loving it...also use the ALE single straps.
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Old 01-13-09, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by melon View Post
the whole toshi doubles being an investment is also bollocks
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is it that bad to spend 7 on new straps and replace them once every 6 months.
Over 20 years that's 280. Just sayin'...

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if youre paying anything close to retail for toshi doubles, youre not trying hard enough.
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Old 01-13-09, 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Jabba Degrassi View Post
Over 20 years that's 280. Just sayin'...
Just playing the odds here, but most people in this forum aren't going to be cycling another 5 years, let alone twenty. Like all endeavours, only a few people taking part are going to turn it into a lifelong passion.
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Old 01-13-09, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by elTwitcho View Post
Just playing the odds here, but most people in this forum aren't going to be cycling another 5 years, let alone twenty. Like all endeavours, only a few people taking part are going to turn it into a lifelong passion.
Sure enough. Even over 5 years though, you'd be ahead about $10 with a set of Toshi doubles if we're estimating a new set of nylon straps every 6 months.

I'm just of the school of thought that it's better to buy a quality product once than a much cheaper product several times. You usually come out ahead, financially, and even if you don't, it's usually pretty close and you get to get to enjoy using a high-quality product.
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Originally Posted by Jabba Degrassi View Post
Sure enough. Even over 5 years though, you'd be ahead about $10 with a set of Toshi doubles if we're estimating a new set of nylon straps every 6 months.

I'm just of the school of thought that it's better to buy a quality product once than a much cheaper product several times. You usually come out ahead, financially, and even if you don't, it's usually pretty close and you get to get to enjoy using a high-quality product.
Thing is that $10 single straps can easily last for 5 years. The set of Christophe straps on my mountain bike are pushing 15 years and many thousands of miles. So the Toshis would have to last longer than I will to make them cost effective. There is nothing particularly magic about them which makes them last 10 times as long.

Please buy them if you like them, but they definitely are not the cheapest way to do it in both the short and the long run.
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Originally Posted by GMERGOD View Post
I just asking, what do you think good pedals & toe-clips products by SOMA??
i'm actually looking at getting some new track bars from them, might as well get some pedals, (shush, don't tell anyone, I still have the stock Kilo pedals on) are the pedals any good? anyone have any experience with SOMA products?
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Old 01-14-09, 05:19 PM
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Its no bollocks at all, if you dont feel a difference between single cheap nylon strap and doubles, something must be wrong with you! If you're really going for a fast on a track you will feel the grip, and the pressure they take.
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for ****s sake. 6 months was an example, youd have to treat them like **** for them to last only that long.

if you were riding track you wouldnt be using clips and straps, unless your NJS or an idiot.

of course there is a diffrence, but stick two nylon straps togather, or get a doubliser and you wont know any diffrent.

if you bothered to read what i actually said, youl see that i own a pair of toshis. my point was that thier really not worth the money, unless you have it to burn on an extravigance.



those soma pedals are made fairly well, but its a bit of a bugger to run doubles
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I read what you wrote, no more, no less. Don't blame me if you can't express yourself. The fact that you own a pair of Toshis as well is as immaterial to this discussion as your eye colour.
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for ****s sake. 6 months was an example, youd have to treat them like **** for them to last only that long.

if you were riding track you wouldnt be using clips and straps, unless your NJS or an idiot.

of course there is a diffrence, but stick two nylon straps togather, or get a doubliser and you wont know any diffrent.

if you bothered to read what i actually said, youl see that i own a pair of toshis. my point was that thier really not worth the money, unless you have it to burn on an extravigance.



those soma pedals are made fairly well, but its a bit of a bugger to run doubles
Dude..calm down, plz?

I just ask you, what "NJS" stand for?
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those are road/track 9/16 pedals with clip & straps.. I am wondering those are good for commuter??




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What are the actual pedals made of? Also, do they sell the clips stand-alone? Should be fine..
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Originally Posted by elTwitcho View Post
Just playing the odds here, but most people in this forum aren't going to be cycling another 5 years, let alone twenty. Like all endeavours, only a few people taking part are going to turn it into a lifelong passion.
A sad fact I've only been cycling for six months now, but it has made me question why the hell I stopped cycling as a kid. Anyways, I have well over ten years to make up for so toshi's do make sense, only if they're affordable at the moment though. No one should bust their ass just to get some straps, it is one component that can be tided over with cheaper variants until a quality product is more affordable and plausible.

Anyways, I just went for the cheaper way right now, with some soma doubles with my gr-9's, and compared to my single nylon straps my feet are WAY more secure now. My pedal stroke feels nicer, skidding is a more secure event, and my feet don't slip as much as they used to. Some of these things are more important to others though, and I have noticed that gr-9's barely grip a shoe's sole. When there is more money in pockets I might try out those touring pedals that Jabba pointed out cause increased grip sounds attractive.
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