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What is this technique of Wheel construction called?
What is the technique of twisting the spokes like this called?
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1384/...6c66c7.jpg?v=0 Thanks for any info. |
I think it's just called twisting, but I could be wrong.
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crows foot, i believe, sturdy but a ***** to re-true ive heard
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Hard to tell what's going on in that pic, but:
Crow's Foot: http://www.geocities.com/spokeanwhee...ws_foot_5x.gif Twisted spokes: http://www.colourswheelchair.com/ima...es/twister.jpg |
Originally Posted by jmf
(Post 8251390)
crows foot, i believe, sturdy but a ***** to re-true ive heard
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i think it's ugly.
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Woah.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Twis...ng---flowers!/ Seems like WAY more trouble than it could possibly be worth, if it's worth anything at all. |
I would most definitely call twisting a strong lacing pattern. Any spoke with weight on it is equally splitting that pressure with the spoke next to it. This means the pressure is always more evenly distributed along the whole wheel, which will make the wheel less likely to become untrue.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them. |
Originally Posted by Syncmaster
(Post 8251345)
What is the technique of twisting the spokes like this called?
http://www.bgcycles.com/fender2-sm.jpg |
Originally Posted by Guvna
(Post 8251929)
Woah.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Twis...ng---flowers!/ Seems like WAY more trouble than it could possibly be worth, if it's worth anything at all. |
I've got a 32h crow's foot-alternate-radial front, and it's awesome. Hasn't significantly gone out of true in a year and a half. I think I put a quarter turn on 2 spokes a few months ago.
My crow's foot rear wheel was another story. The wheelbuilder put the radials on the wrong side of the crossing spokes (inside or out, I don't remember) which put too much lateral stress on the radial spokes and they kept popping. Relaced that as a 4x and it's bombproof. These are both veep rims. |
Originally Posted by Guvna
(Post 8251929)
Woah.
http://www.instructables.com/id/Twis...ng---flowers!/ Seems like WAY more trouble than it could possibly be worth, if it's worth anything at all. |
snowflake.
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Originally Posted by pyze-guy
(Post 8252280)
A pain to replace spokes on as well. Mine never went out of true, and was a decent ride in terms of comfort, but getting someone to replce the spokes when they went was impossible.
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technically, its called a waste of time and money, but ive been calling it braided/twisted 4 cross. the wheels arent as strong as 3 cross (which is pretty much the ideal pattern for everyday use) and i had to true one in the shop this past summer and it sucked. obviously this tarckster doesnt care and he has an infinite source of money (parents) to fund his new hobbies
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that front wheel was stolen....it was posted on sffixed i believe
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just called twisted spokes, they are pretty, but i would be hard to be gotten to ride a set.
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Originally Posted by stryper
(Post 8252189)
I would most definitely call twisting a strong lacing pattern. Any spoke with weight on it is equally splitting that pressure with the spoke next to it. This means the pressure is always more evenly distributed along the whole wheel, which will make the wheel less likely to become untrue.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them. |
Originally Posted by skeem
(Post 8253400)
technically, its called a waste of time and money, but ive been calling it braided/twisted 4 cross. the wheels arent as strong as 3 cross (which is pretty much the ideal pattern for everyday use) and i had to true one in the shop this past summer and it sucked. obviously this tarckster doesnt care and he has an infinite source of money (parents) to fund his new hobbies
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Originally Posted by stryper
(Post 8252189)
I would most definitely call twisting a strong lacing pattern. Any spoke with weight on it is equally splitting that pressure with the spoke next to it. This means the pressure is always more evenly distributed along the whole wheel, which will make the wheel less likely to become untrue.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them. |
Originally Posted by stryper
(Post 8252189)
I would most definitely call twisting a strong lacing pattern. Any spoke with weight on it is equally splitting that pressure with the spoke next to it. This means the pressure is always more evenly distributed along the whole wheel, which will make the wheel less likely to become untrue.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them. :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by ianjk
(Post 8252681)
Keep one (labeled) untwisted spoke in your parts bin so you know what size to get/find :)
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Are these the new arrospok? I'm just waiting for someone to drop the term "bombproof" to make it official. :)
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drop + bombproof.... I see what you did there. |
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