What is this technique of Wheel construction called?
01-26-09 | 03:26 PM
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I would agree with the difficulty of truing but sturdy I would certainly disagree. also a pretty heavy build if my memory serves since the spoke length needs to be longer (not that you are concerned with this if you are interested in a twisted wheel but just putting the facts out there).
01-26-09 | 03:53 PM
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Woah.
https://www.instructables.com/id/Twis...ng---flowers!/
Seems like WAY more trouble than it could possibly be worth, if it's worth anything at all.
https://www.instructables.com/id/Twis...ng---flowers!/
Seems like WAY more trouble than it could possibly be worth, if it's worth anything at all.
01-26-09 | 04:33 PM
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I would most definitely call twisting a strong lacing pattern. Any spoke with weight on it is equally splitting that pressure with the spoke next to it. This means the pressure is always more evenly distributed along the whole wheel, which will make the wheel less likely to become untrue.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them.
01-26-09 | 04:40 PM
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It's called more trouble than it's worth. There are better ways to make your bike look unique and individual. Try something that better adds functionality, or increases rideability, like a pair of carbon fiber fenders
01-26-09 | 04:45 PM
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Woah.
https://www.instructables.com/id/Twis...ng---flowers!/
Seems like WAY more trouble than it could possibly be worth, if it's worth anything at all.
https://www.instructables.com/id/Twis...ng---flowers!/
Seems like WAY more trouble than it could possibly be worth, if it's worth anything at all.
01-26-09 | 04:46 PM
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I've got a 32h crow's foot-alternate-radial front, and it's awesome. Hasn't significantly gone out of true in a year and a half. I think I put a quarter turn on 2 spokes a few months ago.
My crow's foot rear wheel was another story. The wheelbuilder put the radials on the wrong side of the crossing spokes (inside or out, I don't remember) which put too much lateral stress on the radial spokes and they kept popping. Relaced that as a 4x and it's bombproof. These are both veep rims.
My crow's foot rear wheel was another story. The wheelbuilder put the radials on the wrong side of the crossing spokes (inside or out, I don't remember) which put too much lateral stress on the radial spokes and they kept popping. Relaced that as a 4x and it's bombproof. These are both veep rims.
01-26-09 | 04:47 PM
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Woah.
https://www.instructables.com/id/Twis...ng---flowers!/
Seems like WAY more trouble than it could possibly be worth, if it's worth anything at all.
https://www.instructables.com/id/Twis...ng---flowers!/
Seems like WAY more trouble than it could possibly be worth, if it's worth anything at all.
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01-26-09 | 06:08 PM
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01-26-09 | 07:59 PM
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technically, its called a waste of time and money, but ive been calling it braided/twisted 4 cross. the wheels arent as strong as 3 cross (which is pretty much the ideal pattern for everyday use) and i had to true one in the shop this past summer and it sucked. obviously this tarckster doesnt care and he has an infinite source of money (parents) to fund his new hobbies
01-26-09 | 08:10 PM
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I would most definitely call twisting a strong lacing pattern. Any spoke with weight on it is equally splitting that pressure with the spoke next to it. This means the pressure is always more evenly distributed along the whole wheel, which will make the wheel less likely to become untrue.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them.
01-26-09 | 08:14 PM
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technically, its called a waste of time and money, but ive been calling it braided/twisted 4 cross. the wheels arent as strong as 3 cross (which is pretty much the ideal pattern for everyday use) and i had to true one in the shop this past summer and it sucked. obviously this tarckster doesnt care and he has an infinite source of money (parents) to fund his new hobbies
01-26-09 | 08:46 PM
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I would most definitely call twisting a strong lacing pattern. Any spoke with weight on it is equally splitting that pressure with the spoke next to it. This means the pressure is always more evenly distributed along the whole wheel, which will make the wheel less likely to become untrue.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them.
01-27-09 | 04:25 AM
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I would most definitely call twisting a strong lacing pattern. Any spoke with weight on it is equally splitting that pressure with the spoke next to it. This means the pressure is always more evenly distributed along the whole wheel, which will make the wheel less likely to become untrue.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them.
Ted Shred rides with twisted spokes front and back, and has been doing so for years, and last time I talked to him about his wheels he just got a new set and was saying his last set hadn't been trued in over 8 months, that's not bad. I would say he is about 190lb and pretty tough on his wheels. He holds the world record for highest bunny hop on a fixed gear, of I think it was 55cm. Now I am not sure what wheel set he did that on, but I know he went to Japan a little over a month ago for another competition and he was using his twisted spoke wheels (deep V wood grain variation on paul hubs, not sure what spokes were other than white) so he must be confident in them.
01-27-09 | 12:35 PM
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Not getting a spoke, getting someone to rebuild/tension it when it needed. Half the lbs I went to when I had my wheel like that had no idea how to lace the spoke.
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