1. I DO know what direction the threads travel, in fact it will be hard for me to forget it at this point since it caused me to ruin 1/2 a hub two weeks ago.

2. Thanks to Mitch, I now see a better way to tighten the cog onto the hub.

3. Part of bicycling (for me) is wrenches, and I dont mind making mistakes. So I probably will go ahead and build a wheel.

4. I think my sarcasm / funny hats / photos are no worse than name calling, negativity and discouragement.

Someone really likes using Google Image search!

whats wrong with the other side of the hub?

ftfy

Before you kill yourself or someone else.

https://www.parktool.com/
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/
and
https://www.amazon.com/Zinn-Art-Road-.../dp/1884737706

it seems like you have a lot to read. be careful and take your time. i had a wheel stolen, and though i wanted to build my wheel quickly, doing right was by far the priority.

He already ****ered them up crossthreading a lockring.

I know it's all about trial & error, but these are costly mistakes you're making. I can see your wheelbuild exploding like a hand grenade. If you do this, at least have a professional check it out before you ride on it.

The guy wants to learn more about bikes, why discourage him? How else would one learn to build a wheel other than by building one?

Of course, getting it checked out by someone who knows what they are doing afterward would be a prudent thing to do. As would doing a lot of reading first. I have learned from experience that spoke nipples do not loosen in the direction that I intuitively thought they would

well if you're not going to switch out your cog that often, would threadlocker (i.e. loctite) fix this? i recently did the same thing but i applied red loctite and it holds up to a small amount of hopping but i havent done any skidding because i was afriad that the red loctite isnt strong enough~ whats the torque in psi are our legs when we skid? (say 48x16 ratio)

let me know! <3

I use red loctite on suicide hubs... it has to be torched to get it to release and I have never had one come loose. (Buut you have to do this right).

Blue loctite responds to increased machanical force and is good for things you don't want coming loose due to vibration like fender and rack bolts, brake posts, etc.

The past 3 weeks, I have gone through 5 sealed bearing units in my rear hub. So I've gotten pretty good at replacing them.

Could it be that the hub is simply a cheap hub? If one has to I.D. the hub it may be a no name that simply doesn't stand up to a quality name brand hub. Not sayin it in a bad way but u get what you pay for. We all start somewhere in our budget. Replaceing the hub with a better quality one would prevent this in the future. On a fixied gear the drivetrain is so much more important than a freewheeled bike.

You're doing it wrong.

Formulas are just fine and they're inexpensive. If you don't thread things on properly there's a good chance you'd srip even a Phil Wood hub.

I would have to bet that I ride more than most of you, ride harder than most of you, and put my bike through more hell than most of you... I base this on my work (messenger), the miles I lay down (about 10,000 / yr), and the fact I ride 12 months of the year in the frozen north.

I also work as a bike mechanic so I see all kinds of stuff.

With that being said... I am running Formula hubs which deliver some good bang for the buck and seem to hold up really well for myself and for the folks I have built wheels for.

I can't afford to have my bike failing as although I have a spare, the time it takes to get it costs money.

If you get a Surly or a better hub and don't install the cog and lock ring properly you will F it up and I have seen professional mechanics completely bork people's hubs too.

It pays to know how to do this yourself as it will save you money and time and then when things do go to hell you know who to blame.

traab - The drive train on a fixed gear is no different from that on a geared bike in that you have to take care of it and geared drives take a lot more care and attention. Fixed is simple... just make sure the cog and lock ring are tight and you're good to go and check it regularly.
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And for those of you that can't stop bickering over nothing... go for a ride and come back when you're feeling more amicable.

I am sure this thread will still be going strong unless we have hit the point where the topic changes to chicks and tattoos...

i hope you arent trying to suggest that this may be due to user error. it has to be that cheap garbage formula makes!

I have seen more Surly hubs come in to my shop all fubar'd than I have anything else... they must be crap.

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I am only going to tidy things up once.