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Old 04-14-09 | 04:57 PM
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Is it possible?

to have a flip flop fixed/free hub and then have gears on the cranks?

so basically a like 3 speed fixie/free wheel
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Old 04-14-09 | 05:00 PM
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Possible with a freewheel, but you'd need two derailleurs still. A better setup is a 1x#, where you have one ring up front and however many gears in the rear.
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you could if you used one of those surly tension things off of the derailleur hanger, and ran some slack in your chain
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Old 04-14-09 | 05:19 PM
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^ not nearly enough to pull the chain with a triple (or most doubles) up front.
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Old 04-14-09 | 05:21 PM
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If you really want to do that you can use the Paul Melvin for 2 rings in the front. The single in the front and whatever in the rear is the best option.
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Old 04-14-09 | 06:21 PM
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White Industries has the Duo system, 2 rings in front and 2 in back I believe.
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Old 04-14-09 | 06:50 PM
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Surly has the dingle cog which is two tooth counts on one cog. What I always wanted to do is figure out a way to have one of those White Industries Duo f/w and a dingle cog on one hub.
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Old 04-14-09 | 06:53 PM
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^ Fixed/free flip-flop hub?
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Old 04-14-09 | 08:15 PM
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I have a Tiagra triple drivetrain and brifters I yanked off my Synapse 6 when I got it that i've been meaning to sell. I wonder how a fg drivetrain would work with a RD? I'm not sure you would be able to backpedal on that. Anyone tried this before? If I could find a suitable frame for cheap, I'm tempted to try it. Hehe, just giving myself a reason to buy a cross check frame.
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Old 04-14-09 | 08:22 PM
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it will rip the RD off the frame. its been tried...
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Old 04-14-09 | 08:32 PM
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Figures.

Would probably work fine with a freewheel, but if i go that route i'd rather to 1x9.
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Old 04-14-09 | 08:34 PM
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yeah you can't run fixed with a rear tensioner or derailer, and since you need one of those two to run multiple gears in the front, i would say no, it's not possible.

even if you had horizontal dropouts to take up the slack and you manually switched gears (no shifter) i don't think the dropout would be long enough to accommodate a triple front's changes in chain usage
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i plan on running my bike 1x5 on one side, and fixed on the other side of the wheel. only need one derailer.
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Old 04-14-09 | 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
i plan on running my bike 1x5 on one side, and fixed on the other side of the wheel. only need one derailer.

???
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Originally Posted by lukewall
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fixed on one side of flipflop, 5 speed freewheel on the other. i DO realize i will need two chains
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Old 04-14-09 | 09:01 PM
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also, the wheel is dished for gears, yet is a flipflop
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Originally Posted by lukewall
???
https://www.bikeforums.net/singlespeed-fixed-gear/531189-build-up-my-frankenbiek.html
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Old 04-15-09 | 01:07 AM
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This thread is full of terrible ideas.

If you want lots of gears, buy a road bike.

If you want just a few, buy a 3 speed (with an internal hub, it even looks like a single speed) or build a 1x?

If you want a fixie, buy a fixie.

Or just be patient and wait for the Sturmey Archer S3X (https://sunrace-sturmeyarcher.blogspo...ed-update.html) to come out, it's a 3 speed fixed gear hub.
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
fixed on one side of flipflop, 5 speed freewheel on the other. i DO realize i will need two chains
Will not work. Maybe you didn't see the earlier post (#10) about what happens if you use a rear derailleur with a fixed cog: "it will rip the RD off the frame." So, unless you plan on bypassing/removing the rd every time you flip the wheel (and change chains), it's just not going to end well.
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Originally Posted by CliftonGK1
Will not work. Maybe you didn't see the earlier post (#10) about what happens if you use a rear derailleur with a fixed cog: "it will rip the RD off the frame." So, unless you plan on bypassing/removing the rd every time you flip the wheel (and change chains), it's just not going to end well.
im not a ****** bike newb. i understand taht you cannot run fixed with a dereuler. therefore, i will carry two chains. it isnt that difficult.
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Old 04-15-09 | 12:47 PM
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jesus dude, relax, i don't think he was trying to offend anyone
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Old 04-15-09 | 12:48 PM
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im not a ****** bike newb. i understand taht you cannot run fixed with a dereuler. therefore, i will carry two chains. it isnt that difficult.
How often will you be flipping the wheel to add the derailleur and chain? It seems like too much work if you like riding multiple gears and fixed a lot, it'd be more efficient to just buy a dedicated geared bike.
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How often will you be flipping the wheel to add the derailleur and chain? It seems like too much work if you like riding multiple gears and fixed a lot, it'd be more efficient to just buy a dedicated geared bike.
i wont be changing it very often. itd just be nice to have.

i DO have a dedicated fixed gear bike, i DO have a dedicated geared road bike, i DO have a dedicated rainy day fender'd/rack'd up commuter, and i DO have a dedicated full suspension mountain bike. this bike would just be for fun. if my brother wanted to take out some fixed gear bikes, we could do that, if he wanted to take out some road bikes, geared bikes, we could do that as well.
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jesus dude, relax, i don't think he was trying to offend anyone
I wasn't. Some people just need to switch to decaf.

What I'm getting out of this isn't that it's a practicality solution, it's a proof of concept bike. Like those 2spd builds that use dual freewheels and you pedal backwards to use the second gear.

Just because you can build something doesn't mean you should.

OK, now maybe I'm being a little mean.
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