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vengeful_lemon 05-22-09 12:22 PM

another S3X thread
 
So, where is it? Vaporware?

i mean, it's in the catalogue, but if no one has one to sell, what's the point?

darksiderising 05-22-09 12:30 PM

they had to fix a part that was prone to breaking. that's the last I heard.

adriano 05-22-09 12:55 PM

i want s3x brifters.

darksiderising 05-22-09 01:36 PM

^ I think that would be awesome, as well. It would be possible to design a cam so that it pulled the right amount. Perhaps someone will make it.

vengeful_lemon 05-22-09 02:11 PM

Darksiderising: That's nice that they're taking the time to refine the product before letting us break our teeth with it, but I want one. I suppose they won't have a neutral between 2nd and 3rd like on the old SA hubs, eh? That would be nice for steep descents.

Personally, I've been trying to figure out a good solution for DT shifting. Forget brifters.

oneangrytoast 05-22-09 02:27 PM

i love oral s3x.

vengeful_lemon 05-22-09 02:50 PM

oneangrytoast is helpful and mature.

darksiderising 05-22-09 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by vengeful_lemon (Post 8967219)
Personally, I've been trying to figure out a good solution for DT shifting. Forget brifters.

I believe the shifter is just a downtube shifter in a pod. I am hoping that you can just take it out of the pod (which you must be able to do anyways to change pods for different attachment locations) and stick it on a downtube shifter boss.

JacoKierkegaard 05-22-09 03:34 PM


Originally Posted by adriano (Post 8966802)
i want s3x brifters.

This.

aidy 05-22-09 03:36 PM

why though?

you've only got three speeds so that's one for the hills, one for the flats and one for going downhill, fast... doesn't seem like you need a lot of shifting :P

jim-bob 05-22-09 03:42 PM


Originally Posted by aidy (Post 8967716)
why though?

you've only got three speeds so that's one for the hills, one for the flats and one for going downhill, fast... doesn't seem like you need a lot of shifting :P

Curses, beaten again.

Yeah, I don't at all see a need for brifters on a 3sp. A downtube shifter, thumbshifter, barcon, or even a stem shifter makes sense to me, but a brifter? Seriously? For those breakaways when you need to instantly jump from your 63" gear to your 85" gear?

ringdangdoo 05-22-09 03:47 PM


Originally Posted by aidy (Post 8967716)
why though?

you've only got three speeds so that's one for the hills, one for the flats and one for going downhill, fast... doesn't seem like you need a lot of shifting :P

I thought it was 2 granny gears and then direct drive. A neutral for steep descents sounds interesting.

adriano 05-22-09 04:01 PM


Originally Posted by jim-bob (Post 8967757)
Curses, beaten again.

Yeah, I don't at all see a need for brifters on a 3sp. A downtube shifter, thumbshifter, barcon, or even a stem shifter makes sense to me, but a brifter? Seriously? For those breakaways when you need to instantly jump from your 63" gear to your 85" gear?

sensibility doesnt factor into the equation. niftiness does!

jim-bob 05-22-09 04:04 PM

There's nothing nifty about brifters!

I don't even much like triggers, witness my front shifter:
http://entirely-adequate.com/051409/headon.jpg

darksiderising 05-22-09 04:08 PM

^ No, there's nothing nifty about red cable housing, cross-sided brakes, metal toe clips, and leather/pleather straps..

jim-bob 05-22-09 04:17 PM

How does it feel to live without taste? Without a soul?

darksiderising 05-22-09 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by jim-bob (Post 8968024)
How does it feel to live without taste? Without a soul?

You tell me Mr. uncut and uncapped brake cable.

jim-bob 05-22-09 04:26 PM

(work in progress as of that shot. trying to fit v-brakes around 700x60 rubber was a bit of a chore.)

PS: When the hub ships, I will be happiest with an old-school trigger thumbshifter. I wouldn't sneer at a nice downtube shifter either.

adriano 05-22-09 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by jim-bob (Post 8968070)
(work in progress as of that shot. trying to fit v-brakes around 700x60 rubber was a bit of a chore.)

PS: When the hub ships, I will be happiest with an old-school trigger thumbshifter. I wouldn't sneer at a nice downtube shifter either.

i think they wont disappoint you.

kyselad 05-23-09 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by ringdangdoo (Post 8967799)
A neutral for steep descents sounds interesting.

Like a 3-speed with a freewheel? Somebody should get on that.

vengeful_lemon 05-25-09 12:09 PM


Originally Posted by kyselad (Post 8972009)
Like a 3-speed with a freewheel? Somebody should get on that.

touche. But you knew what I meant. A neutral on a fixed-wheel would be awfully useful in certain situations, like at a light if you don't want to lift the wheel up, and going down a hill if you spin out. But they won't put a neutral. They stole it from all the other hubs, even the coasters :O

darksiderising: yes, downtube and options for thumb/barend pod, please. Maybe it'll shift as fast as the old triggers, too? They just jump into gear. CLICK!

dutret 05-25-09 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by aidy (Post 8967716)
why though?

you've only got three speeds so that's one for the hills, one for the flats and one for going downhill, fast... doesn't seem like you need a lot of shifting :P

dt and barends can get in the way. brifters don't. They should have just designed it to use a standard pull length so you could use whatever you wanted.

darksiderising 05-25-09 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by dutret (Post 8980628)
dt and barends can get in the way. brifters don't. They should have just designed it to use a standard pull length so you could use whatever you wanted.

There is no such "standard pull length."

PedallingATX 05-25-09 12:42 PM

Serious quetsion: what's a brifter???

I'm guessing a combination of brake lever and shifter? Like on modern road bikes (shimano 105, etc)?

darksiderising 05-25-09 12:44 PM

^ you got it!


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