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Cyclaholic 06-13-09 07:12 PM

C'dale CAAD9 conversion
 
Stuff I have...

CAAD9 frame with fork & headset
LX crankset with integrated BB
Bullhorn bars with ladybug
1.1/8" stem
Ultegra brake calipers
SPD clipless pedals
Saddle & post
Ladybug stuffed toy cable tied to bar

Pilfered from my other bike...
Wheels

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...um/cssfg01.jpg

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...um/cssfg02.jpg

I just bought a pair of those skinny brake levers that plug in to the end of the bars, waiting on delivery.

Can't find a magic ratio so I'm going to rebuild the rear wheel on an ENO eccentric hub. Not cheap, but by all accounts worth the money.

If I can find the funds I might do a matching front wheel, although this one (Shimano R550) seems to be holding up really well for a cheapie.

I might de-brand the frame, and just leave it as polished or brushed alloy. It'll be a major hassle because it's clearcoated.... or I might just leave it as it is, what do you think?

operator 06-13-09 07:15 PM

Nice homeless angle on those bars.

amiexploited 06-13-09 07:15 PM

please don't debrand the frame

i have that in a flat black 09 10spd

i like it

gospastic 06-13-09 07:18 PM

ugh.

clink83 06-13-09 07:25 PM

Put drops on it.

Cyclaholic 06-13-09 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by clink83 (Post 9096821)
Put drops on it.

That can still happen, but it will involve two brake levers.

JonnyHK 06-13-09 07:27 PM

Sell frame to someone who wants a road bike.

Use money to buy a proper track frame.

Cyclaholic 06-13-09 07:28 PM


Originally Posted by operator (Post 9096781)
Nice homeless angle on those bars.

You know it's reeeeally far away from finished, right?... and stuff like adjusting angles of bars and heights of saddles is done when it's finished, right?

Cyclaholic 06-13-09 07:30 PM


Originally Posted by JonnyHK (Post 9096834)
Sell frame to someone who wants a road bike.

Use money to buy a proper track frame.

Why? I don't ride on a track, and I really like the ride of this frame, it's super stiff, I love it actually.

dsh 06-13-09 07:32 PM

Wait, is that frame a Cannondale? They all look alike, really.

td.tony 06-13-09 07:43 PM

I actually think it's a pretty good idea.
How did you get your hands on a C9 frame only? Lots of people out there buying the C9 7 just for the frame and building it up for racing.

I agree with you that a road frame makes much more sense on the road than a track frame.

PedallingATX 06-13-09 07:48 PM

I think that's an awesome idea. I have thought about turning a modern road bike into a fixed gear, but it requires a lot of money (eno hub) that I don't have. If you have the funds, you should definitely go for it! It will be super fast and a joy to ride.

The truth is, track frames SUCK for riding on the street. How many of y'all do 50+ mile rides on your track frames comfortably? Probably none, unless you're lying.

I myself ride one of the only production fixed gear bikes that has road bike geometry (sputnik) b/c it's way more comfy than all that tarck crap.

Riding fixed is a joy but being hunched over on a track frame is a pain. Thus converting a modern, lightweight road bike into a fixed gear is a GREAT idea.

I say you put some drops on it w/ hooded brake levers. That will get you that really comfy road bike positioning. Everything else looks golden. Get yourself a rear wheel and you're set.

Also, don't debrand it.

Cyclaholic 06-13-09 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by td.tony (Post 9096899)
I actually think it's a pretty good idea.
How did you get your hands on a C9 frame only? Lots of people out there buying the C9 7 just for the frame and building it up for racing.

I agree with you that a road frame makes much more sense on the road than a track frame.

I got it cheap as a complete road bike, but never used it (very occasional ride). The thing is that I'm always either hauling a whole bunch of stuff with the LHT, or I'm on the fixie.

maddyfish 06-13-09 08:13 PM


Originally Posted by JonnyHK (Post 9096834)
Sell frame to someone who wants a road bike.

Use money to buy a proper track frame.

Silly answer. This is the best mass produced aluminum road frame on the market and will make a really nice ride.

He would have to spend a fortune to get a track frame that was truly higher quality than what he has. None of these run of the mill track frames (IRO, Surly, anything by BD) are superior to this frame.

And for real world roads, and real world riding, this frame will likely be superior in comfort AND performance to a track frame.

beeftech 06-13-09 08:32 PM

Go for the eno hub. You'll be happy you did in the end, instead of sitting on a gear you might be unhappy with.
And keep both brakes.
This bike will be awesome in the end. Modern high end road frames make great conversions.
And another vote for hooded drops.

Cyclaholic 06-13-09 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by beeftech (Post 9097145)
Go for the eno hub. You'll be happy you did in the end, instead of sitting on a gear you might be unhappy with.

Yes, I agree. The hub is on order.


Originally Posted by beeftech (Post 9097145)
And keep both brakes.

The 80's brake on my 80's conversion ss/fg was more of a suggestion to slow down. I'll be commuting a lot more on this bike thanks to two brakes that actually work.


Originally Posted by beeftech (Post 9097145)
And another vote for hooded drops.

But I already have these bars which I find quite comfortable, and I just bought brake levers for them....

Cyclaholic 06-13-09 09:00 PM


Originally Posted by PedallingATX (Post 9096921)
I think that's an awesome idea. I have thought about turning a modern road bike into a fixed gear, but it requires a lot of money (eno hub) that I don't have. If you have the funds, you should definitely go for it! It will be super fast and a joy to ride.

The hub is the only big ticket item for this conversion so it's not too bad cost wise.

If she's as good a ss/fg as she was a roadie I'll be very happy.



Originally Posted by PedallingATX (Post 9096921)
Also, don't debrand it.

I most likely won't. The clearcoat finish on it is amazingly high quality, seems a shame to strip it.

Madisonian 06-13-09 10:10 PM

Please Please PLEASE, as a fellow CAAD9 owner, don't debrand it. There's a reason they're still making these frames, and it's because they're real quality; I've been racing mine for the past 2 years, and it's a great frame. However you use that frame is up to you, but wear the badges with pride!

JonnyHK 06-13-09 10:29 PM


Originally Posted by Cyclaholic (Post 9096848)
Why? I don't ride on a track, and I really like the ride of this frame, it's super stiff, I love it actually.

OK - edit my comment to this:

Use money to buy a frame with suitable dropouts so that you don't have to bust your balls (or wallet) to get the bike to work as you dream it will.

It's a great frame. It's just not designed to go fixed. With a tensioner it would be fine as a single speed.

I just think that you could get a very good price for this frame and use the money to buy something that would be much easier for you to use as FG/SS. Why do things the hard way when you don't have to? It's not like you're on a $0 budget with a junk frame as a start point.

Anyone know if the Cannondale Capo geometry is similar to the CAAD9? That is a FG/SS bike.

If the eccentric hub will make it work, then fine. Just seems to me to that this frame/usage choice is a strange way of going about it.

maddyfish 06-13-09 10:32 PM

All you've got to do is buy an ENo hub right? What are they a couple hundred? No big deal it will be a fine ride.

elTwitcho 06-14-09 01:23 AM


Originally Posted by PedallingATX (Post 9096921)
I myself ride one of the only production fixed gear bikes that has road bike geometry (sputnik)

also;

MASI speciale fixed
IRO
Surly Steam Roller
Schwinn Maddison
Specialized Langster
Pretty much every fixed gear specific frame being made these days...

but other than those, I guess.

td.tony 06-14-09 01:51 AM

hurry up and post some finished pics already!! :p should be an awesome ride.

tFUnK 06-14-09 01:59 AM

beautiful frame; seeing it turned into a fg irks me for some inexplicable reason. it'll probably be a great ride, though.

PedallingATX 06-14-09 02:14 AM


Originally Posted by elTwitcho (Post 9097910)
also;

MASI speciale fixed
IRO
Surly Steam Roller
Schwinn Maddison
Specialized Langster
Pretty much every fixed gear specific frame being made these days...

but other than those, I guess.


Steamroller is the only bike you listed that has similar geometry to the Sputnik. IRO is more track, as is the Madison and Masi. Then again, I don't have all of the angles memorized, so maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Steamroller and Sputnik are two of the more chillaxed geo. FG frames out right now.

kergin 06-14-09 04:57 AM

I like this, I really do! I was just going to sell my CAAD 9 frameset and move to something more practical, but the OP might be onto something here.

How does CAAD9 geometry compare to ideal track geo?

spaceballs 06-14-09 11:44 AM


Originally Posted by JonnyHK (Post 9097583)
Anyone know if the Cannondale Capo geometry is similar to the CAAD9? That is a FG/SS bike.

I got my CAAD9 earlier this week, and I haven't wanted to ride a thing since. It is seriously like riding on a rocket.

I just checked Cannondale's site, and the CAAD9 geometry is different from the Capo.

Now, when folks on here say that geometry is "more track" or "more road," I take it to mean that the seat tube and head tube angles are steeper on the track bike and less steep on the road bike.

If the lower bottom bracket doesn't give you a hard time, ride the heck out of this bike!

bicycle 06-14-09 01:37 PM

i think there is something the matter with your chain

Murderface 06-14-09 03:32 PM


Originally Posted by PedallingATX (Post 9097984)
Steamroller is the only bike you listed that has similar geometry to the Sputnik. IRO is more track, as is the Madison and Masi. Then again, I don't have all of the angles memorized, so maybe I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that Steamroller and Sputnik are two of the more chillaxed geo. FG frames out right now.

All of those have slack geo compared to true track geometry.

Cyclaholic 06-14-09 10:57 PM

I picked up this FSA K-wing a while back for $80, but haven't found a use for it yet...

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x...um/fsabars.jpg

I think maybe this with plain road brake levers might work better than the bullhorns, what do you think?


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