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Old 06-26-09 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by jpdesjar
i don't like that the frame doesn't have a support between the rear triangle tubes...seat tubes?
i would think this would make the rear triangle a bit weaker
Yep. It looks kinda purdy, but that seems sketchy as hell.
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Old 06-26-09 | 08:00 AM
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Yep. It looks kinda purdy, but that seems sketchy as hell.
the fork doesn't seem to fit on this frame either
it reminds me of the cannondale track frame a bit just the tubes aren't as beefy and the tubes aren't as smoothly joined
 
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Old 06-26-09 | 08:07 AM
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^it's supposed to remind you of the cdale track, it's a copy of it
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Old 06-26-09 | 08:08 AM
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yeah, that skinny little steel fork paired with a 9/8" frontal interface looks off.

mostly i don't care about some other small company making another stylish frame.
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Old 06-26-09 | 08:21 AM
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^it's supposed to remind you of the cdale track, it's a copy of it
ok, thanks
meh...it's not really doing it for me but the polished wheels look pretty slick
 
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Old 06-26-09 | 08:25 AM
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

WORD. Those rims are bad ass (my buzz word for the day, for some reason, even though I haven't heard that word for like 10 years)
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Old 06-26-09 | 08:28 AM
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are those rims still rippling when they're laced?
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Old 06-26-09 | 08:44 AM
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anybody notice the huge dimple in the wheel where it looks like the spoke is trying to pull the nipple through?
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Old 06-26-09 | 09:01 AM
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those are some ugly welds at the seat cluster
not a fan of the fork either, looks like t-rex arms
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Old 06-26-09 | 09:36 AM
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About the fork: It is supposed to be a replica of the Cannondale Track frame, which had a weird looking little steel fork on it.

I agree a CF fork would look better b/c, to be honest, this frame just isn't going to replace the C-Dale track anyways. Looking at pics of it, I think that w/o that beautiful blue paint job this bike isn't anywhere near as pretty as those old Tracks were.

Since they aren't going to be able to completely replicate that frame, they might as well make it better by putting a CF fork on it. I do like hte non-integrated headset, though. Would look cool w/ a threaded headset maybe, especially if it's going to keep that steel fork. If it had CF fork, threadless would look better.

The tubing joints don't look as "bubbly" as they did on the old C-dale Tracks, which is disappointing.
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Old 06-26-09 | 10:16 AM
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it would look pretty nice with a bareknuckle fork on there...beefier fork to match the larger tubing

i have a lot of love for alien frames...i can't wait to get one in the color of my choice for a build project
 
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Old 06-26-09 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Patricky
why they make low pro rims they need a rims with 45m im mad coz velocity mad erims 43 but the h son had a 42 first coz velocity needed a deppr rim coz its not fair relly
i m hevin a hrd thyme tryin to tipe as ba d as this d00d coz im mst be hevin 2 gud o f grmmr
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Old 06-26-09 | 10:40 AM
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PS...most of the pictures of mounted up rims have giant dimples/ dents on the rear wheel
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Old 06-26-09 | 10:53 AM
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Does that dude really have an h+son tattoo?
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Old 06-26-09 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by jpdesjar
i don't like that the frame doesn't have a support between the rear triangle tubes...seat tubes?
i would think this would make the rear triangle a bit weaker
but you don't know that they are called seat stays so it doesn't matter
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Old 06-26-09 | 11:20 AM
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but you don't know that they are called seat stays so it doesn't matter
it does matter
seat tubes...seat stays...whatever

so, what do you think about the lack of a support?
 
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Old 06-26-09 | 12:20 PM
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While it might be the same geometry and also have the steel fork that the old Cannondale track had, the real question is what kind of aluminum it will be made of. Cannondale could be using the same geo with their new models and just crap out on the aluminum and it would ride anything like the old ones.

Continuum cycles in NYC makes an aluminum track frame with a one inch steer and steel fork (though not flat crowned like the one shown above). If you are gonna go with the steel fork, just go 1 inch and give people the option of the threaded or threadless.
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Old 06-26-09 | 12:33 PM
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Does that dude really have an h+son tattoo?
I definitely noticed that and lol'd a bit
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Old 06-26-09 | 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jpdesjar
it does matter
seat tubes...seat stays...whatever

so, what do you think about the lack of a support?


I don't think it's a big deal personally

The seat stays get triangulated in the same direction by the rear axle and based on placement of most brake bridges, I would assume that it doesn't really lend a lot of strength...
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Old 06-26-09 | 12:53 PM
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FWIW, a friend chopped the rear triangle out of an old MTB he has, and it wobbled so badly, it was scrap metal after! Wouldn't fancy splashing out with it not even there in the first place!

Even some of the fanciest custom frames built, tend to always have a rear bridge, think there's a reason! Obviously a new comer could see them as irrelevant, not having years of experience in knowing what's important to the over all performance of the frame..
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Old 06-26-09 | 01:12 PM
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ah, thank you
i knew it seemed odd to not have a bridge
perhaps one will be added in since it's still in the prototype phase
 
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Old 06-26-09 | 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lattanzio
but you don't know that they are called seat stays so it doesn't matter
LOL wow...really it doesn't matter cus he doesn't know the proper term...pointless idiotism.
Originally Posted by iansmash
I don't think it's a big deal personally

The seat stays get triangulated in the same direction by the rear axle and based on placement of most brake bridges, I would assume that it doesn't really lend a lot of strength...
yeah your right it doesn't lend alot of strength but,...
Originally Posted by jpdesjar
it does matter
seat tubes...seat stays...whatever

so, what do you think about the lack of a support?
that peice of metal between the SEAT STAY (lol) that bridges them together provides stability. when you start smash that frame will start wobble and twist.



and this dude better provide a better fork then that hideous thing....damn ****** lookin kilo tt

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Old 06-27-09 | 09:01 AM
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Well there has to be a reason ALL frames, even frames without brake mounts have the bridge.

well, ALL frames was a bit strong, those ZIPP 2001 frames didn't, neither did those softride frames, But they are just freaks, and who cares about freaks.
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Old 06-28-09 | 05:37 PM
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I'm pretty sure the pictures of the one without the bridge is an earlier prototype, whereas the white one with the bridge is a later prototype.
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