H+Son FRAME!!!!!!
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About the fork: It is supposed to be a replica of the Cannondale Track frame, which had a weird looking little steel fork on it.
I agree a CF fork would look better b/c, to be honest, this frame just isn't going to replace the C-Dale track anyways. Looking at pics of it, I think that w/o that beautiful blue paint job this bike isn't anywhere near as pretty as those old Tracks were.
Since they aren't going to be able to completely replicate that frame, they might as well make it better by putting a CF fork on it. I do like hte non-integrated headset, though. Would look cool w/ a threaded headset maybe, especially if it's going to keep that steel fork. If it had CF fork, threadless would look better.
The tubing joints don't look as "bubbly" as they did on the old C-dale Tracks, which is disappointing.
I agree a CF fork would look better b/c, to be honest, this frame just isn't going to replace the C-Dale track anyways. Looking at pics of it, I think that w/o that beautiful blue paint job this bike isn't anywhere near as pretty as those old Tracks were.
Since they aren't going to be able to completely replicate that frame, they might as well make it better by putting a CF fork on it. I do like hte non-integrated headset, though. Would look cool w/ a threaded headset maybe, especially if it's going to keep that steel fork. If it had CF fork, threadless would look better.
The tubing joints don't look as "bubbly" as they did on the old C-dale Tracks, which is disappointing.
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While it might be the same geometry and also have the steel fork that the old Cannondale track had, the real question is what kind of aluminum it will be made of. Cannondale could be using the same geo with their new models and just crap out on the aluminum and it would ride anything like the old ones.
Continuum cycles in NYC makes an aluminum track frame with a one inch steer and steel fork (though not flat crowned like the one shown above). If you are gonna go with the steel fork, just go 1 inch and give people the option of the threaded or threadless.
Continuum cycles in NYC makes an aluminum track frame with a one inch steer and steel fork (though not flat crowned like the one shown above). If you are gonna go with the steel fork, just go 1 inch and give people the option of the threaded or threadless.
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I don't think it's a big deal personally
The seat stays get triangulated in the same direction by the rear axle and based on placement of most brake bridges, I would assume that it doesn't really lend a lot of strength...
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FWIW, a friend chopped the rear triangle out of an old MTB he has, and it wobbled so badly, it was scrap metal after! Wouldn't fancy splashing out with it not even there in the first place!
Even some of the fanciest custom frames built, tend to always have a rear bridge, think there's a reason! Obviously a new comer could see them as irrelevant, not having years of experience in knowing what's important to the over all performance of the frame..
Even some of the fanciest custom frames built, tend to always have a rear bridge, think there's a reason! Obviously a new comer could see them as irrelevant, not having years of experience in knowing what's important to the over all performance of the frame..
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and this dude better provide a better fork then that hideous thing....damn ****** lookin kilo tt
Last edited by Promo; 06-26-09 at 05:29 PM.
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Well there has to be a reason ALL frames, even frames without brake mounts have the bridge.
well, ALL frames was a bit strong, those ZIPP 2001 frames didn't, neither did those softride frames, But they are just freaks, and who cares about freaks.
well, ALL frames was a bit strong, those ZIPP 2001 frames didn't, neither did those softride frames, But they are just freaks, and who cares about freaks.
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I'm pretty sure the pictures of the one without the bridge is an earlier prototype, whereas the white one with the bridge is a later prototype.




