straight over the handlebars
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straight over the handlebars
hey,
just got my new track bike and on the first ride felt the need to learn to stop. fast. i'd heard about how to skid stop and thought i'd give it a shot. i did get a front brake, and i pulled it. the first time the back wheel came up and then down. this happened again the second time. the third time i tumbled over the handlebars. what happened? did i pull the brake too hard? i didn't skid any of these times. i've heard that i'm supposed to lean into the handlebars, but won't this just shift my weight forward and make me dump again?
also, i got gator skins. is this maybe why it was harder to skid?
any thoughts would be really helpful.
just got my new track bike and on the first ride felt the need to learn to stop. fast. i'd heard about how to skid stop and thought i'd give it a shot. i did get a front brake, and i pulled it. the first time the back wheel came up and then down. this happened again the second time. the third time i tumbled over the handlebars. what happened? did i pull the brake too hard? i didn't skid any of these times. i've heard that i'm supposed to lean into the handlebars, but won't this just shift my weight forward and make me dump again?
also, i got gator skins. is this maybe why it was harder to skid?
any thoughts would be really helpful.
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Gatorskins are the easiest tires I have skidded on. You don't use the brake to skid, just level the pedals and hang on. The back end will unweight (jump off the ground slightly) allowing you to stop the wheel from spinning. If you grab ahold of the front brake as you unweight the rear, you will send yourself over the bars or do a nice stoppie if you pay attention and modulate the brake.
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You don't use the brake while skidding, especially in a skid where all of your weight is over the handlebars. If you're using the brake, only use your feet to SLOW the back wheel, and put your weight to the rear of the bike (or at least the rear of your saddle).
)You don't use the brake while skidding, especially in a skid where all of your weight is over the handlebars. If you're using the brake, only use your feet to SLOW the back wheel, and put your weight to the rear of the bike (or at least the rear of your saddle).
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wow, just wow. read these two articles before you kill yourself
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brakturn.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brakturn.html
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wow, just wow. read these two articles before you kill yourself
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brakturn.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brakturn.html
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Lean waaaaaaaaay back and jam on the front break like really really hard and u can pull wicked reverse ripskittings.
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wow, just wow. read these two articles before you kill yourself
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brakturn.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/fixed.html
https://www.sheldonbrown.com/brakturn.html
sheldon says, "If you ride a fixed gear with only a front brake, your legs will tell you exactly when you are at the maximum brake capacity of the front brake." what does this mean; what will it feel like when i brake too much.... or have i already found out?!
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i don't ride all that often. yeah, i bought the hipster bike. yeah i bought the velocity rims. but really, i want to learn how to do this. i hear people go on about how pure the experience is and i want that. give a newbie a chance...
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Sheldon means you'll be able to feel the rear tire lose traction as it lifts up. This is the maximum braking capacity of the front brake.
For future reference, any time you're jamming on the front brake make sure you lean back to counteract the weight transfer, otherwise... yeah, you know.
Also, I hate to ruin your expectations of something life-changing, but the whole "pure experience" thing is largely a bunch of pseudo-Zen crap touted by people like that guy who claimed that aluminum bikes feel square while steel bikes feel circular. The only time I feel unusually well-connected to the bike because of the drivetrain is riding VERY slowly alongside foot traffic where I can alter speed as necessary with my legs. While actually riding the thing, it's just a bike with one gear that can't coast. They look simpler, have fewer parts, and are easier to maintain, but a fixed gear bike isn't some kind of path to Nirvana.
For future reference, any time you're jamming on the front brake make sure you lean back to counteract the weight transfer, otherwise... yeah, you know.
Also, I hate to ruin your expectations of something life-changing, but the whole "pure experience" thing is largely a bunch of pseudo-Zen crap touted by people like that guy who claimed that aluminum bikes feel square while steel bikes feel circular. The only time I feel unusually well-connected to the bike because of the drivetrain is riding VERY slowly alongside foot traffic where I can alter speed as necessary with my legs. While actually riding the thing, it's just a bike with one gear that can't coast. They look simpler, have fewer parts, and are easier to maintain, but a fixed gear bike isn't some kind of path to Nirvana.
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