Alright...the stock stem/long reach/too many spacers thing is getting to me on my Kilo and it's time to shop for a new stem and cut down that steerer a bit. However...I'm having a really difficult time finding a slightly shorter 17-degree (25.4 clamp) stem that isn't black (I know, I know...I'm letting aesthetics be important but hey, I like what I like and a black stem will be really out of place here).

Anyone have any suggestions?

Here's a recent pic of my bike, just 'cause:

Thomson x4 in silver with a 31.8>25.4 shim

+1 for Thomson, but if you do that you may want to check out some 31.8 bars; I like the X2 stem better.

I think there's some old Thomsons in that dimension on ebay in silver, or at least I think I've seen them.

edit: It's zero degree but short and 25.4:

https://cgi.ebay.com/Thomson-Elite-50...#ht_500wt_1182

Wow...50mm may be too short. Looking for something somewhere between that and where I'm at right now. I would like to keep my Nemesis Project bars, though, which is why I'm looking to stay at a 25.4 clamp. Good to know that Thomson makes them.

Correction -- I meant the X2 stem. I agree with you -- the x2 is better.

i got the velo orange 17 degree stem, 80mm (they have other sizes) and brought it down to just 3 5mm spacers. i have a kilo tt pro.

edit: oh yeah, got the stem shim from velo orange too.

Torelli Bormio
https://www.thebikebiz.com/product_p/cmp-stem-tor01.htm

NITTO UI-5GX
https://www.thebikebiz.com/product_p/...em-nitto05.htm

the nitto is 8 degree. the torelli looks awesome.