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Anybody use a Rotofix method ?

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Old 10-27-09, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by jlin
fyi, OP, this is definitely not safe. without a lockring, you must must must at the very least use loctite. though rotafixing is a great way to tighten your cog, without a locking mechanism for the cog to remain in place, your cog will inevitably come loose again.
Oh, I'm all for using loctite for a suicide. But you are incorrect when you say it will eventually cone loose. When you rotafix, you apply a force far higher than your legs could. The math is actually rather simple. But for an added belt & suspenders, loctite will certainly increase your factor of safety.
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Originally Posted by Moximitre
But you are incorrect when you say it will eventually come loose. When you rotafix, you apply a force far higher than your legs could. The math is actually rather simple. But for an added belt & suspenders, a brake or set of brakes will certainly increase your factor of safety regardless of how your cog is installed.
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I thought that was assumed from the onset. I wouldn't necessarily advocate riding a suicide brakeless, though I've successfully done it myself in the past for over a year without incident. Though I only weigh 205, lol. Alarmist is right.
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Well, there's nothing wrong with using red loctite, but I wouldn't do it, simply because it would make it a big PITA to remove the cog. Cogs wear out, and I'd rather use my wheelset beyond the life of one cog. In the extremely unlikely event that the cog did spin loose, I don't see how this is particulalry dangerous (assuming the use of brakes). Once you begin to pedal forward again, the cog will reengage. From that point you know you need to re-rotafix the cog and perhaps adjust your riding style so it doesn't happen again. But again, I've never spun a cog off, not even with repeated skidding and skip-stopping.
The worst case (and extremely unlikely) scenario is the cog will spin all the way off the threads and your chain will derail. But thats hardly something to worry about..the fact that the cog is now loose prevents the wheel from seizing. Moreover, the freewheel side of a hub has many more threads than a fixed side, so if a cog that was rotafixed onto freewheel threads broke loose, it would take many more rotations of the wheel for the cog to come off. Its just not going to happen, but if it did it would be much less serious than throwing your chain without unthreading the cog, which could cause your wheel to suddenly seize.
There have been lots of reports of people putting themselves in life-threatening situations by riding brakeless and/or not managing chain tension properly, but no threads reporting accidents caused by rotafixed cogs. I've been on this forum (and other forums) for 4 years, and I've never read a single instance where someone crashed due to a rotafixed cog spinning loose. In fact, I can't remember a thread where someone's cog spun completely off. The vast majority of cog slippage reports have been by users who strip their hub threads due to improperly installed (undertorqued) cog and lockring.

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Well it's been 3 days now and all is good no problems with the cog coming loose, I guess it's on there real tight.
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