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Old 11-02-09 | 08:59 AM
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Nowhere does Sheldon say this; he does, however, mention "they have very strict standards, with the intention of preventing mechanical failure". Call me crazy, but that sounds like quality control to me.

We all already know NJS levels out Keirin racing for gambling purposes, but to just sit there and deny the fact that there's more to an NJS frame than a stamp for gambling is ridiculous.
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Old 11-02-09 | 09:11 AM
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case in point: vivalo losing it's certification a few years back.
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Old 11-02-09 | 09:24 AM
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If NJS is a mark of standardization and not of quality then every company out there would be making NJS approved stuff. And would you really want a NJS Next?
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njs sets a standard for strength but also standardizes frame material, weight, spoke count, and even geometry for safety but mainly for equality in racing. njs frames are certainly made with care and control to maintain this safety and equality, but the emphasis of certification is on preventing a racer from gaining an advantage in the highly lucrative league it regulates. an njs certification of a frame ensures that it will perform and was made just like any other njs frame, not that it performs or is made better or worse than any other frame.
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Old 11-02-09 | 11:34 AM
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njs sets a standard for strength but also standardizes frame material, weight, spoke count, and even geometry for safety but mainly for equality in racing. njs frames are certainly made with care and control to maintain this safety and equality, but the emphasis of certification is on preventing a racer from gaining an advantage in the highly lucrative league it regulates. an njs certification of a frame ensures that it will perform and was made just like any other njs frame, not that it performs or is made better or worse than any other frame.
you're really splitting hairs.
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Old 11-02-09 | 11:45 AM
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Seriously. Kind of ironic since it's probably the most info adriano has ever offered up in a single post.
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Old 11-02-09 | 12:10 PM
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NJS = standardized approved components, not NECESSARILY in quality

That means NO Toshi doubles, NO black 75's cranks

The Vivalo that was/had been NJS approved was not necessarily quality frames. Most racers considered them "disposable."
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Old 11-02-09 | 12:21 PM
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tgscordv6, you are foolish. those frames are not disposable, but effectively a thousand dollar bill with top tube dents redeemable with capri wearers with left shoulder problems. carry on.
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Old 11-02-09 | 01:55 PM
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NJS parts are of high quality and similar performance/weight/strength to one another. This really isn't very confusing.

I agree with what someone else said: if you are going to Italy, why buy a BK? Get an old track frame that is more unique/prestigious. You could probably find some old Bianchi, Ciocc, Pinarello, Coppi, etc frames there if you look. Just ask around.
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Old 11-02-09 | 02:00 PM
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tgscordv6, you are foolish. those frames are not disposable, but effectively a thousand dollar bill with top tube dents redeemable with capri wearers with left shoulder problems. carry on.
Just let it go man....let it go
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Old 11-02-09 | 02:09 PM
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How so?
You think $735+shipping for a mediocre, tig welded, "street" track frame with ****ty paint and no custom options is a good deal?
Kook trying to make it in the bike industry as a johnny come lately importer/ direct to you retailer by constantly hating on the Bareknuckle. Same ol' tiresome ***** being sung by a different bunghole
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Old 11-02-09 | 02:17 PM
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Just let it go man....let it go
i am bitter! the njs told me to go get something with soul!

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Old 11-02-09 | 03:11 PM
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nice frame. too bad about the build.
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Old 11-02-09 | 03:30 PM
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nice frame. too bad about the build.
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Old 11-02-09 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Halcyon Days
Kook trying to make it in the bike industry as a johnny come lately importer/ direct to you retailer by constantly hating on the Bareknuckle. Same ol' tiresome ***** being sung by a different bunghole
You couldnt be more incorrect.
I'm not "trying to make it in the bike industry". I'm a college professor.

And if I were "trying to make it in the bike industry", I probably wouldn't do it by making a profit of $20 on something that costs $1100 to the customer.

As for hating on the BK. I am definitely not. Its a great frame. Just not worth what it costs IMHO.

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Old 11-02-09 | 06:38 PM
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as for hating on njs, they are great frames but not worth what they cost.
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Old 11-03-09 | 09:48 PM
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Kook trying to make it in the bike industry as a johnny come lately importer/ direct to you retailer by constantly hating on the Bareknuckle. Same ol' tiresome ***** being sung by a different bunghole
1. He's selling them cheaper than Yellow Jersey.
2. He's allowing for greater customization than YJ (doing things such as removing the P.O.S. logo which YJ said was impossible)
3. He's giving a damn about customers and triple checking measurements between the builder and buyer.
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