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Nuggetross 11-08-09 07:10 PM

How Long Before B43 with Braking Surface?
 
^what that says. i like riding with a front brake. anyone know?

16v 11-08-09 07:23 PM

You can use it a brake with it, with limited (if any) loss of power.
I switched front wheels from machined dp18 to a non machined deep v, and I can stop essentially just as fast with the non machined deep v.

Nuggetross 11-08-09 07:29 PM

i don't feel like stripping the paint off.

yokotas13 11-08-09 07:31 PM

you don thave to
the brake will for you

Nuggetross 11-08-09 07:31 PM

^haha, that's what i meant.

yokotas13 11-08-09 07:33 PM

why does it matter?
i hope they never do
ill just repaint my wheels when it wears through.

Nuggetross 11-08-09 07:37 PM

it matters because i want to be able to brake well and because i don't want my brakes to be stripping paint off of my rim. they have braking surfaces for a reason.

yokotas13 11-08-09 07:49 PM

you can brake just as well as with a machined surface
I have deep section wheels (CandyRim) with paint, and i can stop just as fast as with normal wheels.

it still works, its just loud and annoying
you can see where it is rubbing
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2630/...c6fd20caf7.jpg

HandsomeRyan 11-08-09 07:50 PM

Roller brake front hub?

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2159/...8eb06199_o.jpg

(i think some of there can be used with forks that don't have disc mount tabs)

Nuggetross 11-08-09 07:51 PM

^yeah great...

can someone just answer my question?

yokotas13 11-08-09 07:53 PM

yeah
Velocity
DO we look like we work for velocity, or anyone here that is in RND is for velocity?
this is a case where you need to email them directly, or humor us

shubonker 11-08-09 07:55 PM

You want to look cool without shedding performance? Impossible.

mrvile 11-08-09 08:27 PM

What is the difference between stripping paint off the rim and having a machined rim in the first place? Either way, you'll have a braking surface.

Young Version 11-08-09 08:31 PM

I think the B43 may actually have reduced braking performance; not because of the finish, but because of the shape. Deep Vs have a rim plane that's parallel to the braking surface, but I don't think the same is true of B43s. Eventually the pad would wear with the rim, but until then your braking power might be limited.

mrvile 11-08-09 08:39 PM


Originally Posted by Young Version (Post 10006261)
I think the B43 may actually have reduced braking performance; not because of the finish, but because of the shape. Deep Vs have a rim plane that's parallel to the braking surface, but I don't think the same is true of B43s. Eventually the pad would wear with the rim, but until then your braking power might be limited.

That is true. Velocity's site has a cross section of the B43 http://www.velocityusa.com/default.asp?contentID=699 and it is tapered throughout the entire wall.

That being said, I'm wondering if you can adjust the brake pads to have a slight amount of tilt so it can make full contact with the rim. Most brake pads these days have those rounded backs so you can adjust for toe-in...they might have up and down adjustment in addition to front and back...?

xxguitarist 11-08-09 08:43 PM

Seems to me that it'd be against the whole idea of those rims to give them a braking surface.

mrvile 11-08-09 08:44 PM


Originally Posted by xxguitarist (Post 10006304)
Seems to me that it'd be against the whole idea of those rims to give them a braking surface.

...well what's the point of running B43's in the first place...?

xxguitarist 11-08-09 08:46 PM


Originally Posted by mrvile (Post 10006306)
...well what's the point of running B43's in the first place...?

fashion.

the_don 11-08-09 08:47 PM

B43's with MBS???

they are called h+son HL42.

stryper 11-08-09 09:29 PM

yeah h+son rims have had an option for braking surface since their release, and are far lighter than a b43 rim, and are the same price now too.

I hate bicycles 11-08-09 10:22 PM

Also there's these
http://www.evanscycles.com/product_i...brake-pads.jpg

Nuggetross 11-08-09 10:26 PM

does anyone actually sell h+sons? i can only find formation face hoops...can't even find *sl42's.

the_don 11-08-09 11:47 PM

Buy them direct from H+SON

www.hplusson.com.

they have a webshop

Leukybear 11-08-09 11:58 PM


Originally Posted by I hate bicycles (Post 10006696)

Can I get the ordering page for this? I totally need these. :D

~These'll do the trick to wear down a brake surface and without all the black skuffy mess...

BoozyMcliverRot 11-09-09 01:06 AM


Originally Posted by yokotas13 (Post 10006091)
you can brake just as well as with a machined surface
I have deep section wheels (CandyRim) with paint, and i can stop just as fast as with normal wheels.

it still works, its just loud and annoying
you can see where it is rubbing
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2630/...c6fd20caf7.jpg

Anyone who buys boutique rims with painted over braking surface,and runs brakes.......must be a mechanic,do what he tells you....ha ha ha


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