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Old 11-10-09, 12:15 AM
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WTF please help

Ok so i went to change the nuts on my rear wheel, my old ones were getting stripped. I thought this would be a pretty simply task, apparently I was wrong. The old nuts came off fine, no big deal. I go to put the new ones on and they refuse to move any further than a spin or two, and now one is stuck and wont come off. So at the moment my bikes rear wheel is sitting next to me with a single nut stuck on it.

Help?
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Old 11-10-09, 12:18 AM
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sounds like cross threading.
could have been wrong sized threads though. i don't know what you can do
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Old 11-10-09, 12:18 AM
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bro u need a new axle
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Old 11-10-09, 12:23 AM
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fareal?
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Old 11-10-09, 12:24 AM
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there might be away to fix it
did you remove the nut?
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Old 11-10-09, 12:24 AM
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Yeah, probably a new axle if you just got new nuts. Of course make sure you are threading it on properly and not cross threading it too.

Run your fingers around the axle where it is getting stuck, there could be some burs or something.

I think any M10 steel rod will do as a new axle. Where is best to go? Hardware store or bikeshop?
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Old 11-10-09, 12:25 AM
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o i see it won't move
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Old 11-10-09, 12:28 AM
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But maybe he did cross thread it.....

Force the little bugger off!
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wut exactly is crossthreading? it sounds like what i did
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A condition that occurs when a rotating fastener is misaligned with a tapped hole.

In other words you tried to put the nut on crooked.
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**** dude.
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It sounds like you have the wrong size nut. Is it an old bike?
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thats what i was thinking as well...
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Originally Posted by ShaneRidesBikes View Post
Ok so i went to change the nuts on my rear wheel, my old ones were getting stripped. I thought this would be a pretty simply task, apparently I was wrong. The old nuts came off fine, no big deal. I go to put the new ones on and they refuse to move any further than a spin or two, and now one is stuck and wont come off. So at the moment my bikes rear wheel is sitting next to me with a single nut stuck on it.

Help?
Ok so i went to change the nuts on my rear wheel, my old ones were getting stripped.
my old ones were getting stripped.
getting stripped.

What did the threads on your axel look like before you tried putting the new ones on?
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Course thread? Fine thread?
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Old 11-10-09, 05:20 AM
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did you grease the threads before installing the new nut? how do you manage to get a nut stuck to the axle when just putting it on with your fingers?
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Old 11-10-09, 06:06 AM
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ShaneRidesBikes,

For better or worse, that nut has to come off. There is nothing that is going to just "miracle" it off. Clearly, you are suffering from either a cross threading or more probably (if you tried both nuts) wrong size threads on the nut. If the axle isn't damaged (too much) after removing the nut just take it with you to the hardware store and either try nuts yourself or if you are lucky some guru in the store will measure the threads for you and get you proper washers and nuts.

Given that your original nuts were stripping and one of the new ones are stuck I would like to respectfully suggest being a little less ham fisted with your bike. Trust me, that comes from a fellow ham fist. Work slow, trust nothing that doesn't go on smooth as butter and grease everything as you go. Everything. While you are at the hardware store pick up a tub-o-marine grease. They should have it. If not, a tub-o-regular grease will do great. While chains are an exception (and possibly hubs) nothing else will benefit from over priced, bicycle specific grease. Nothing wrong with the stuff of course. But, it is ridiculously priced. That said, a few years ago I picked up a tub of Finish Line Teflon grease on fire sale and use it on my hubs and pedals. It seems to work great. Still have a bunch left.
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Bike shop


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nut was wrong size...it happens... derailer, single speed, speed hubs all have different nuts....i would do something unorthodox but it should work...

if you just got to twist it twice you can force it out and sand the damage threads...go to a bike shop and get nuts that really fit...

but before you try a new nut you NEED to clean (eliminate) the damaged thread...its tricky but can be done...

pics would be really usefull...

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Old 11-10-09, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by tFUnK View Post
did you grease the threads before installing the new nut? how do you manage to get a nut stuck to the axle when just putting it on with your fingers?
That's what she said....sorry, couldn't resist.
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Old 11-10-09, 09:11 AM
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This is no big deal unless you really torqued those nuts on there.

People often think 3/8ths and 10mm are the same, but a 10mm axle will not take 3/8th track nuts, only letting you get 2-3 turns on it.

Clamp the axle with a vice grip and a rag, but be careful not to ruin the threads; clamp the axle closer to the hub body. After you get the nut off, see if you can't straighten out any damaged threads with the old track nut.
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fixed it! i forced the ****er off.

All seems to be well again
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Originally Posted by ShaneRidesBikes View Post
fixed it! i forced the ****er off.

All seems to be well again
what a case of the internet forum blue balls! such an anti-climatic end.

but glad you got it worked out.
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I'm pretty sure (puts on sunglasses) you're screwed.

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