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Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops
(Post 10225985)
I'm more interested in the trend of singlespeed cycling: they have never been "cool", but definitely a demographic interested in simplicity AND functionality. And I have the impression a lot of fixed gear guys have been silently (extremely stealthily) converting from FG to SS. They would never admit it, I presume, if their lives depended on it.
Haven't noticed this FG to SS trend. I understand that SS is easier and more convenient to ride (especially taking coasting into account), less to worry about, etc, but I don't know if it's really more (or less) functional than FG. Or maybe it is? Enlighten a noob. |
I feel all its good for is training, but thats just from what I've read and seen, I road FG for a while and didn't like it at all so I went back to SS, it's all about the individual.
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Originally Posted by NateRod
(Post 10233921)
I'm doing the exact opposite thing. Actually, I actually started on a road bike. Then for simplicity's sake, I decided to try SS. Tried it, loved it. Now I've started gaining a real interest for FG and I'm making the switch to try it out.
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SS is the most pointless thing ever, it doesnt have the advantages of a fixed or the advantages of gears. It just sucks.
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if this was a so called "fad" then it was the greatest ever. it put more bicycles on the road then automobiles.
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Originally Posted by aMull
(Post 10234144)
SS is the most pointless thing ever, it doesnt have the advantages of a fixed or the advantages of gears. It just sucks.
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Originally Posted by aMull
(Post 10234144)
SS is the most pointless thing ever, it doesnt have the advantages of a fixed or the advantages of gears. It just sucks.
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I think lumping FG & SS together is a big mistake. The only similarity is a single gear ratio. I have some dedicated SS bikes and I have to say they're fun in that they require a different approach to the hilly terrain where I live and generally remind me that I don't need to be as 'twitchy' changing gears all the time as I can be sometimes. But the riding/athletic experience is just like any other bike except with a handicap of a single gear. FG is an entirely different deal in terms of road feel/feedback, anticipation, muscle use and -of course - no resting. I don't understand why you wouldn't ride whatever you want to ride & just enjoy it....I think all bikes are & look cool when they're being ridden - even the dorky looking ones!
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Originally Posted by fiataccompli
(Post 10234599)
I think lumping FG & SS together is a big mistake. The only similarity is a single gear ratio.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
(Post 10234658)
Truth! It's like comparing getting a hard on and eating ice cream: both very pleasant but very different experiences.
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Originally Posted by aMull
(Post 10234144)
SS is the most pointless thing ever, it doesnt have the advantages of a fixed or the advantages of gears. It just sucks.
Reliable (does not come out of adjustment, does not freeze into the wrong gear in the winter time or with mud) Builds strength at different cadences (similar to a fixed) The mechanical simplicity is attractive to some. I have to disagree with you. The only "advantage" you trade off is that you can't skid, and you gain the advantage that you can coast down hills or when traction is sketchy. You can also corner sharper without worrying about pedal strike. |
After riding the fixie for a while, I recently switched over to a singlespeed to spice things up. I have to say I like it better.
1. You can coast. You can also stop better. More wear on the tire. Healthier all around. 2. No "cheating". It's a freewheel, so You actually have to pedal, instead of relying on the momentum to carry you on flats. 3. More maneuveraribility in traffic. Brakes+coasting helps turn corners fasters. 4. You can fly down a hill without killing your knees or looking like a doop. 5. You get more athletic working your way up a hill see #2. 6. Simplicity, with the added bonus of not having to worry about lockrings. 7. You don't resemble a hamster in wheel, and your bike looks like a stripped down road bike, not a mutated "tarck" day-glo abortion. |
Riding fixed is just starting to get popular here, but there are also SS conversions gaining popularity too, as they are much cheaper to do than a fixed conversion (unless you do a suicide hub).
Since I volunteer at the local bike kitchen, I can also say that i'm seeing that road bikes and coaster brake cruisers are also gaining popularity, so here, which is western Canada (Edmonton), biking is gaining popularity as a whole. |
Originally Posted by sleepy
(Post 10236119)
2. No "cheating". It's a freewheel, so You actually have to pedal, instead of relying on the momentum to carry you on flats. 5. You get more athletic working your way up a hill see #2. You stop pedaling with a cog, your legs counteract the momentum and you skid or slow down. Am I missing something? |
Originally Posted by fiataccompli
(Post 10234599)
I think lumping FG & SS together is a big mistake.
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There are definitely more "tarck" riders now. As these low priced bikes became available it has allowed a lot of young people to purchase them. Fixed gear is the new BMX bike for kids.
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Originally Posted by Brian
(Post 10236428)
For the majority of bikes owned by people that post here, the only noteworthy difference from a mechanical standpoint is which way the back wheel is mounted. Yes, they are operated differently, but mechanically, they're essentially the same.
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Originally Posted by dayvan cowboy
(Post 10215143)
i've seen high school kids in the suburb or dayton, ohio that my parents live in riding fixed gears.
once something hits suburban dayton, it's dead. living in dayton, i'd have to agree |
nm, stupid kevin bacon joke.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
(Post 10236630)
I think the point is that the FG and SS experiences are very different. For example a FG almost demands good foot retention, but it is pretty much optional on an SS. You need to be constantly alert on a FG when descending hills or cornering or making tight turns, but can be pretty casual on a SS. For me my FG is a much more intense experience than riding my SS. I get a hard workout on my FG, but don't break a sweat on my SS. My FG is a performance machine with a stiff aluminum track frame and clipless pedals, whereas my SS is an old vintage steel road frame with relaxed geometry, fenders, rack, and double-sided pedals w/o clips or straps. FG and SS are similar but not the same.
What I sometimes do, when riding one of my SS is, I just go around, for hours, aimlessly and at less than a moderate pace, just enjoying myself, feeling transported as in a dance, and never wanting to go back home, ever more approaching a state of nirvana of some sorts. I love those afternoons a lot. I feel one with my bike and with the world. A FG rider, I imagine (I tried it, this is from my FG experience) would approach nirvana in a state of much higher alertness, one that, for me at least, wouldn't be sustainable for more than 1 hour, two at best, after which I would be mentally exhausted. I am sure a FG rider will feel one with his bike and with the world, too, but coming from a completely different direction. |
Originally Posted by Impreza_aL
(Post 10236601)
There are definitely more "tarck" riders now. As these low priced bikes became available it has allowed a lot of young people to purchase them. Fixed gear is the new BMX bike for kids.
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that makes sense..and the important thing is just riding....
A FG rider, I imagine (I tried it, this is from my FG experience) would approach nirvana in a state of much higher alertness, one that, for me at least, wouldn't be sustainable for more than 1 hour, two at best, after which I would be mentally exhausted. I am sure a FG rider will feel one with his bike and with the world, too, but coming from a completely different direction. |
Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
(Post 10236630)
I think the point is that the FG and SS experiences are very different. For example a FG almost demands good foot retention, but it is pretty much optional on an SS. You need to be constantly alert on a FG when descending hills or cornering or making tight turns, but can be pretty casual on a SS. For me my FG is a much more intense experience than riding my SS. I get a hard workout on my FG, but don't break a sweat on my SS. My FG is a performance machine with a stiff aluminum track frame and clipless pedals, whereas my SS is an old vintage steel road frame with relaxed geometry, fenders, rack, and double-sided pedals w/o clips or straps. FG and SS are similar but not the same.
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the hipsters are getting into cafe racer motorcycles
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