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Old 01-23-10, 07:22 PM
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Deep Vs

Im considering buying a pair of Deep Vs. However, I have just a couple of questions:

Are there any advantages/disadvantages of machined Deep Vs against nonmachined deep Vs?

Is there anything that makes the sidewall "deeper" than the normal Deep Vs that you see everday?

Weimann vs. Velocity. Which is better/

Idk. You dont have to answer all of these questions specifically, but just please share with me your knowledge and wisdom about what to consider when buying a pair of Deep Vs.
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Are there any advantages/disadvantages of machined Deep Vs against nonmachined deep Vs?
Machined sidewalls make braking easier.
Is there anything that makes the sidewall "deeper" than the normal Deep Vs that you see everday?
no
Weimann vs. Velocity. Which is better
there is nothing wrong with the weinmann, but they are like 150g heavier for each rim.
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Old 01-23-10, 08:15 PM
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Are you buying them because you think they are better/stronger or just because they look cool? If you just want them because they look cool then rock on but if you are buying them because you think they'll be better/stronger there are plenty of other rims that offer a much better bang-for-your-buck in that regard.
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"Are there any advantages/disadvantages of machined Deep Vs against nonmachined deep Vs?"

You want machined if you're going to be running a brake so that the brake pads are grabbing metal and not paint. Other than that, the differences are strictly aesthetic.

"Is there anything that makes the sidewall "deeper" than the normal Deep Vs that you see everday?"

Some brands have 42mm / 43mm deep V style rims now. The Velocity Deep V is 30mm. Again, this is mostly cosmetic, but if you're going to be doing tricks/jumps, you may want to do more homework to find out which is strongest.

"Weimann vs. Velocity. Which is better/"

What are your criteria for "better"?

Weinmann are cheaper / heavier, but are more cost-effective for just riding around town, since you're probably not going to run either at the velodrome.

Things to consider?

Bell's Bike Shop - These guys sell most major brands, I'd give them a call.
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The Weinmann's will harder to start and stop by about 150 grams each. They're both pretty hefty, but provided that they are well built either will be nearly invincible.
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Non-machined ones * look * deeper ...

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Old 01-24-10, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ADSR View Post
The Weinmann's will harder to start and stop by about 150 grams each. They're both pretty hefty, but provided that they are well built either will be nearly invincible.
Where is this information coming from?

The DP18's are the exact same weight as a standard Deep V. These were weighed personally in shop.
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Old 01-24-10, 03:50 PM
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Prob powder coating /paint ect that weinmans use
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Hey I actually have a question regarding wienmann dp18s. My friend is buying a set and the max tire size written on the rims says 700/23 which seems real small considering how popular they are. Would it somehow be possible to run his 35mm Randonneurs on the wheelset, or will this result in some sort of drastic failure?
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thanks guys. Well I didnt exactly have any criteria for "better". I dont intend to do tricks on it. Just not me. Thats why I watned to know what everyone else's opinion on it was.

But its really just a commuter bike and I think they'd look cool (aesthetic reasons then I guess). Nothing wrong with buying something for aesthetic reasons =p.
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Old 01-24-10, 06:00 PM
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how about Origin8s? what say you guys about dem wheels?
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I have dp18s on my Kilo and love them. I was also torn between Weinmann and Velocity at first but even though I ride on a daily basis, I don't really need anything more than what I've got.

Origin 8 'Tessa' rims are rebranded Weinmanns and their track hubs are rebranded Formulas.

And yeah...we all buy things for aesthetic reasons (bike-related and otherwise).
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Scrod knows.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
I have dp18s on my Kilo and love them. I was also torn between Weinmann and Velocity at first but even though I ride on a daily basis, I don't really need anything more than what I've got.

Origin 8 'Tessa' rims are rebranded Weinmanns and their track hubs are rebranded Formulas.

And yeah...we all buy things for aesthetic reasons (bike-related and otherwise).
Im pretty sure the tessas are actually marketed by eighthinch. Origin8 makes a different line of wheels, such as these which look kinda nice (look at those hubs!) but i havent seen anyone on this forum who owns a pair.

https://www.bikewagon.com/Wheel-Goods...-p8155012.html

Kinda pricey though, for that kinda dough mavics or velocities laced to formulas seem like a safer bet.

Originally Posted by gobby1095 View Post
Hey I actually have a question regarding wienmann dp18s. My friend is buying a set and the max tire size written on the rims says 700/23 which seems real small considering how popular they are. Would it somehow be possible to run his 35mm Randonneurs on the wheelset, or will this result in some sort of drastic failure?
Anyone? Any advice would be nice.
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Old 01-24-10, 09:26 PM
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I've got 25c Rubinos on mine and they're perfectly fine. Maybe you could go with a 28 but personally, I wouldn't think of going much bigger than that.

There is one guy here who has a pair of those other Origin 8 wheels but I can't remember who he is. All I recall is that his bike looks like scrambled eggs.
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Originally Posted by operator View Post
Where is this information coming from?

The DP18's are the exact same weight as a standard Deep V. These were weighed personally in shop.
Stryper... Whoops.

I do remember reading a post on here about a year back that said something very similar. Perhaps 150 maynot be the actual number. To me this suggests that there is a significant difference in weights ofthe finishes, the weinmanns are very inconsistant, the weinmanns have gotten lighter, or velocities have gotten heavier.

Either way I still think the velocities are more aesthetically pleasing.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
I have dp18s on my Kilo and love them. I was also torn between Weinmann and Velocity at first but even though I ride on a daily basis, I don't really need anything more than what I've got.

Origin 8 'Tessa' rims are rebranded Weinmanns and their track hubs are rebranded Formulas.

And yeah...we all buy things for aesthetic reasons (bike-related and otherwise).
The Tessa wheelsets are from EighthInch and indeed they are rebranded Weinmanns with Formula hubs.

from https://www.cyclingcloseouts.com/Prod...ssa_Black.aspx

The EighthInch Tessa wheels are one of the best wheel deals out there. A Weinmann DP18 wheelset imported direct for our EighthInch brand. The 30mm double walled rim is a durable and reliable wheel for any rider whether they are flying through the city or cruising around the neighborhood. Stainless spokes and sealed bearing Formula hubs keep the ride smooth and the wheels true.
  • 700c
  • Available in Machined (for use with brakes) or Non-Machined (no brake use)
  • 32 Black Spokes
  • Black Sealed Bearing Formula hubs
  • Hubs are Fix/Fix for Non-Machined Rims and Fixed/Free for Machined Rims
  • You can space this to 126mm, or 130mm
  • 1180 grams Front, 1240 Rear

I have a pair of Tessa wheels on my bike and they've worked just dandy... plus they look good.
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you won't get any respect from real fixed riders unless you're rocking full disc wheels. deep V's are for n00bs.

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you won't get any respect from real fixed riders unless you're rocking full disc wheels. deep V's are for n00bs.

Disc/aerospok for maximum street cred.
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Scrambled eggs?
Yeah...it was a white bike with yellow components. Eggs was the first thing that came to mind (kinda like how you think about Creamsicles when you see my bike). Don't recall what thread is was in but his frame was much nicer than most of the stuff he had on it.
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Originally Posted by Scrodzilla View Post
Yeah...it was a white bike with yellow components. Eggs was the first thing that came to mind (kinda like how you think about Creamsicles when you see my bike). Don't recall what thread is was in but his frame was much nicer than most of the stuff he had on it.
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well ill tell you what. My vision for a while now was to have a black framed bike, bullhorns wrapped in white tape, white DeepV at the Front, and a white disc wheel at the rear, White crank with white chain =p. Plus. If i have black frame....a carbon fork would blend in nicer =p.
But yeah. White Deep V at the Front FTMFW
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well then. now that we are on the topic of Deep Vs being for noobs, IF, just IF I was considering getting disc wheels, which direction would you point me in if 1) Price were not an issue, OR 2) If I was looking at cost effectiveness.
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Deep Vs aren't just for noobs, dude.
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