I'm not following.

if you ride track, you shouldn't buy this bike. You shouldn't buy it if you ride street either, for that matter.

So a kilo tt is even better than a roll 1 in terms of quality you're saying?

Most likely yes.

Is the kilo a good frame to build on? for such a low price compared to frames that have the same shape and weight that costs around $1500

you want a pista concept because it's fast and aggressive, yet you want to put on heavy ass aerospokes. i'd like to hear what tires you're running on your super fast responsive track bike.

a pista concept with aerospokes, you're definitely following.

I normally use aero in the front and h+son in the rear and i dont see its that huge a difference, and its better in the rough streets here, they are quite strong compaired to my last couple rims and spoke.
i run vittoria rubino tires

yes, you could buy the kilo, put some real pedals on it and ride it at the track completely stock. At least it has track geometry and drop bars. You can't (or don't want to) ride track w/ flat bars. Nor do you want to do it w/ a low BB.

There are a lot of good bikes out there for relatively cheap. Check out IRO as well.

alright i'll let it slide. It came off at first as running two aerspokes coz messengerz r cool. I still think that wheels and tires contribute most to speed and what not, but from what i get you f'd your last frame so that's why you're changing that now.

as has been said, the pista concept and the globe roll are completely different, only similar in their fork ends. It's a bit hard to take your initial question seriously because it's like someone saying "I like the tartness and juice of a citrus fruit so i'm thinking of eating an orange, but i've heard an apple a day keeps the doctor away. which should i get?"


now, I've never had experience with a pista concept so i can't really comment on its ride, but it seems like they have weak seatpost collars. most of the ones for sale say it's cracked or has been welded. for alu that motobecane ftp on bikesdirect isn't bad. if you're comfortable with doing your own labor for assembly (pulling out bb to grease threads, checking everything is tight, i would say truing wheels but you got that covered) it's a good deal. If you go to a bike shop for maintenance though it'll cost you more.

I like the coltello too. good aluminum, geo on the more aggressive side with a low offset fork. sure it's not a real masi in the purist sense of the word, but it's a nice bike. you can find them used in the ~550 range it seems.

the jamis sonik is legit too.

Thanks, yeah i'm going to forget about the concept, too much hunting down to find one the right size and without big dents and such, but the motobecane to be pretty good for what I need and good price.
Also for the kilo tt on bike direct, the dimensions and weight seems pretty much the same as all the bikes with that shape but doesn't cost $1500+ just for a frame, and is still cromo, with those other frames is the quality that much of a difference?(my old frame not sure of the brand, bought it used but seemed to be the same shape also, now its broken but the frame was 10+ old and had some rust spots in joints) but anyway, I wanted to get a bike for my girlfriend to use to if she wanted to ride with me sometimes, but one that I can slowly upgrade also, but wondering if a the kilo is worth putting quite a bit of cash into?

it's good for a starter bike imo. don't compare it to a $1.5k bike, they're miles apart. I'd say it's comparable to a $5-600ish shop bike

did you say you're in canada? if so bikesdirect doesn't ship to canada, you'll have to ship it to a friend in the US then bring it over yourself or ship it from there.

Yeah in canada, probably will ship to a friend then go and pick it up or ship it back. like the kilo tt to a Colnago Master Pista frame, both similar in weight and shape, but huge difference in price. Can't really say on the build quality, never seen either in person

well, the colnago is fully lugged, better steel, and more "track" geometry. It's also got prestige and style in spades over the kilo. the two are in totally separate leagues and a comparison between the two is pointless.

the kilo tt is a great bike for riding daily, especially with some upgrades (bb, saddle for sure). but like i said it's competitors are more like the langster, se lager, etc.

if you want steel and somewhat aggressive at a decent price point, i highly suggest the soma rush. I tested one and it rides very nicely. only downside is the 1" steerer tube. but I liked that bike a lot (was going to buy it until i ended up winning my peloton unexpectedly on ebay)

Yeah the soma rush is nicely priced also. For the kilo tt a 53cm(56cm c-t) would be fine for 6"0?

i am about 6 foot tall and my girlfriends 55cm frame feels absolutely tiny under me. for a "race fit", i ride a 58cm and for a "classic fit" i ride close to a 60cm

If you're deciding on a Kilo, go for a 55.

Thanks i'll go for the 55cm, thanks guys

My reason for suggesting the 55 is that I'm 5'11" and decided on a 53 but it could have gone either way. Every now and again, I feel a little cramped and kinda wish I went with the 55.

Weird. My friend has a 53 (56 c-t) kilo tt, and it fits me just fine. I'm 5'6".

P.S: I like the PB, scrod

Thanks!

Anyone have any good suggestions for some nice lightweight cranks and pedals? and a good bottom bracket? not super expensive and hard to find, nor cheap, like mid or above mid level track type

there's only one answer to that question:

SRAM Omnium. Check bikeisland, I think you can get it w/ BB shipped for like $160

Thanks i'll check that out, getting sad all these online bike shops dont ship to canada

Beat me to it ATX.

170mm arm length is the standard?