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PedallingATX 02-07-10 09:52 PM

nah u can get them in 165. if you are getting a real track frame, you are fine w/ 170, though. if you get a frame w/ a low BB, you might want the 165s. I know I wouldn't run 170 on my frame.

Dosu 02-07-10 10:01 PM

165mm would be good on a kilo tt and a moto team track? if i ever wanted to switch it out

thirdgenbird 02-07-10 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 10374018)
My reason for suggesting the 55 is that I'm 5'11" and decided on a 53 but it could have gone either way. Every now and again, I feel a little cramped and kinda wish I went with the 55.


Originally Posted by xkillemallx16 (Post 10374113)
Weird. My friend has a 53 (56 c-t) kilo tt, and it fits me just fine. I'm 5'6".

P.S: I like the PB, scrod

if you are 6 foot tall and are proportioned anything like me you are going to need a long seat post and stem on a 55cm frame. i am 6ft and here is my bike with a 58cm seat tube (which is = to center to top on a standard frame) and an effective tt length of 58.5cm (and my stem is a little short)

http://i280.photobucket.com/albums/k...d/DSC00739.jpg

Dosu 02-07-10 10:20 PM

my insteam is around 30 30.5

thirdgenbird 02-07-10 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by OSB (Post 10374951)
You are 6 foot tall? What's your inseam?
Because at 6 foot tall with a 30in inseam I ride 57-60cm bikes, depending on the bikes geometry. I can answer any questions you may have about fit.

ive got one:
what size stem would you use on my bike above with the effective top tube lenght of 58.5cm (i just want a baseline)

Dosu 02-07-10 10:26 PM

Well Scrodzilla is 5"11 and hes on a 53cm, little cramped but still fine

LupinIII 02-07-10 10:29 PM

i buy a 30in inseam on my jeans and i'm 5'10", and i like a 53. a 54-56 ctc tt works best for me

Dosu 02-07-10 10:32 PM

So on a 55cm kilo a 165 crack is the way to go?

thirdgenbird 02-07-10 10:34 PM


Originally Posted by Dosu (Post 10374994)
Well Scrodzilla is 5"11 and hes on a 53cm, little cramped but still fine

i would go talk to a local shop or experienced rider if i were you. people can be proportioned VERY differently. like i said, i am 1in taller than Scrod and i have a massive amount of seatpost showing on my 58cm. i tried riding my girlfriends 55cm bianchi and the seatpost was not long enough and i couldnt get into the drops comfortably even with a stem thats about 130mm

edit:

my cranks are also 175mm

i just remeasured my girlfriends bike and i was wrong, its a 54, but still WAY too small

Dosu 02-07-10 10:37 PM

Well the 55 and 57 ct is only 2cm difference at 58 and 60cm ct

thirdgenbird 02-07-10 10:44 PM


Originally Posted by Dosu (Post 10375033)
Well the 55 and 57 ct is only 2cm difference at 58 and 60cm ct

top tube length will be very important. i would probably need a 140mm stem with a 56 cm tt. seat tube angle also comes into paly...

Dosu 02-07-10 10:49 PM

Theres a guy selling a used 58 around where I live, I'll go and check it out this week hopefully, is there any simple quick test I can do to see if its too long or short, other than riding it, but its winter here so not sure if he'd want me to or not

thirdgenbird 02-07-10 10:51 PM

you can read this

thirdgenbird 02-07-10 10:52 PM

or try this but a professional is the best way

Dosu 02-07-10 10:55 PM

I'll check out a bike shop too, and see what top tube length I need then
thanks for those links also

thirdgenbird 02-07-10 10:57 PM


Originally Posted by Dosu (Post 10375113)
I'll check out a bike shop too, and see what top tube length I need then

do them a favor and give them some business while you are there. :)

thirdgenbird 02-07-10 11:03 PM


Originally Posted by OSB (Post 10375021)
Dosu- you would really want to look at a 58cm.


thirdgenbird- I usually get a good idea on stem length by doing the old italian method for arm length.
Take your arm and put your elbow against the nose of your seat and with your hand oustretched, lay your hand over your stem and see about wear your fingers are at, if your index finger is anywhere near where your handlebars are, then you should have a good fit. Let me know where your fingers ended up at.

i missed this earlier.

elbow on nose, my fingers end up right at the back of my 31.8mm bars

Dosu 02-07-10 11:07 PM


Originally Posted by OSB (Post 10375134)
Basically the easiest way to start is to stand over the top tube with both feet on the ground. Now lift the bike up until it touches your inseam. There should be about an inch or so of room, any more it may be too small, any less or sitting on the top, it's too big.
If that seems to go good, then you can do the arm/elbow test I posted above. If that feels, fine I then sit on it and with one foot on the pedal in the down position you set the seat to where you have a slight bend in your knee when your foots on the pedal in the downstroke. If its more than a fistful and a half of seat post, the bike may be too small, if the seat post is showing less, its too big.

These are simple checks, any other fitting may be needed or not, like the bars, stem or seat forth and aft.


I'll try that tomorrow at the shop. thanks

thirdgenbird 02-07-10 11:20 PM


Originally Posted by OSB (Post 10375159)
Well that sounds like the length should be fine, whats the actually problem you are having or feeling?

no, actually the bike seems to fit very nicely. ive never been professionally fit, ive just read, and asked other cyclists opinions. i only asked because it was the only measurement i currently question and you seemed confident that you know your stuff. (and it sounds as you do)

what do you suggest for saddle>bar drop? mine feels great but some question it when they see the bike without me on it. its currently about the width of my hand (one spec i read) plus about .5cm (the picture makes it look worse than it is)

LupinIII 02-07-10 11:22 PM

How confident are you with bike maintenance? can you patch your own tires and adjust chain tension? can you true your own wheels? a fixed gear doesn't have much to maintain, but you need to keep the few parts in great condition because they're that much more a part of the ride.

It might really be best just to buy a bike from a shop. it's probably bit late, but maybe you can still find some 09s? find out what kind of geo you like, what size you need, etc

plus, dick move to go test ride bikes at a shop to get an idea of size then go buy online

thirdgenbird 02-07-10 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgenbird (Post 10375126)
do them a favor and give them some business while you are there. :)


Originally Posted by LupinIII (Post 10375204)
How confident are you with bike maintenance? can you patch your own tires and adjust chain tension? can you true your own wheels? a fixed gear doesn't have much to maintain, but you need to keep the few parts in great condition because they're that much more a part of the ride.

It might really be best just to buy a bike from a shop. it's probably bit late, but maybe you can still find some 09s? find out what kind of geo you like, what size you need, etc

plus, dick move to go test ride bikes at a shop to get an idea of size then go buy online

i am going to quote myself to reinforce this. dont test ride a bike if you plan to buy elsewhere. just ask for fitting advice and buy a tube, patch kit, and chain tool from them for your help. your going to need it anyway.

Dosu 02-07-10 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by LupinIII (Post 10375204)
How confident are you with bike maintenance? can you patch your own tires and adjust chain tension? can you true your own wheels? a fixed gear doesn't have much to maintain, but you need to keep the few parts in great condition because they're that much more a part of the ride.

It might really be best just to buy a bike from a shop. it's probably bit late, but maybe you can still find some 09s? find out what kind of geo you like, what size you need, etc

plus, dick move to go test ride bikes at a shop to get an idea of size then go buy online

I worked as a bike mechanic on mid tier bikes for a year or so, couple years ago, so i'm not so bad. I wasn't going to test ride anything at a shop, only get the guys info on what would be a good track frame size for me. plus most shops here dont carry much except like $2400 giant bikes and other bikes that get the overpriced canadian tax ****

Dosu 02-07-10 11:55 PM


Originally Posted by thirdgenbird (Post 10375230)
i am going to quote myself to reinforce this. dont test ride a bike if you plan to buy elsewhere. just ask for fitting advice and buy a tube, patch kit, and chain tool from them for your help. your going to need it anyway.

Yeah, was planing to just get advice and sit on some bikes in the showroom, plus its snowing here anyway. I think i'll buy some tools to remove a bottom backet

das_pyrate 02-07-10 11:55 PM

http://www.corrosionsource.com/handb...odic_table.gif

find steel on here


now find aluminum and carbon

:/

Dosu 02-08-10 12:43 PM

Hmm, seeing how i'm going to switch most parts out of the kilo tt, is there another frame they sell with similar geo? but better quality, I know the soma rush is one. Guessing around $400-600 for the frame


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