Bike=transportation?
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Bike=transportation?
I get annoyed when people I know describe me as an avid cyclist. True, I love the freedom that the bicycle represents for me in financial terms as well as independance from a car, but an avid cyclist? I don't own a car which is one of those alltime good moves that i made, like when i quit smoking 4 years ago.
I had high cholesteral, road rage, and a severely restricted income due to the economy and trying to support gas+insurance+repairs on my car. Got rid of the car more and more until November of last year, when i got rid of it for good. Winter, snow, and my bike was such a great combination. It proved to me that if I could make it in the winter i could make it period without a car.
So anyway, I love my bike, don't get me wrong, but I hardly ride the thing! I ride it a couple miles back and forth from work, to the store, to a friends house, wherever i need to go. No fitness, no fun, just basic transportation man.
Anybody else like me or am i alone here?
I had high cholesteral, road rage, and a severely restricted income due to the economy and trying to support gas+insurance+repairs on my car. Got rid of the car more and more until November of last year, when i got rid of it for good. Winter, snow, and my bike was such a great combination. It proved to me that if I could make it in the winter i could make it period without a car.
So anyway, I love my bike, don't get me wrong, but I hardly ride the thing! I ride it a couple miles back and forth from work, to the store, to a friends house, wherever i need to go. No fitness, no fun, just basic transportation man.
Anybody else like me or am i alone here?
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Bikes: I built the Bianchi track bike back up today.
Most days I get probably less than 10 miles in. No car. It's transportation for me too... But everyone at work thinks I'm hardcore because I'm almost always right on time no matter what the weather is, which is pretty cold out here sometimes.
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how did you quit smoking? I urgently need to kick the habit
When I started messengering, I was unfit, slightly overweight and on prozac after 4 years with various ****ty 'new economy' it companies. Now I utterly love my life, income levels have nothing to do with job enjoyment. Altough I'd very much like a campy/phil equipped titanium serotta track bike, thank you very much
When I started messengering, I was unfit, slightly overweight and on prozac after 4 years with various ****ty 'new economy' it companies. Now I utterly love my life, income levels have nothing to do with job enjoyment. Altough I'd very much like a campy/phil equipped titanium serotta track bike, thank you very much
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"Avid cyclist" is a phrase used by people who are complete morons. These people are also called journalists, sometimes. Others of this ilk use the word because these journalists had said it in their presence. They know not of what they speaketh. Ignore them. You will be a happier man.
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Bikes: A whole bunch-a bikes.
Definitions of avid on the Web:
(often followed by `for') ardently or excessively desirous; "avid for adventure"; "an avid ambition to succeed"; "fierce devouring affection"; "the esurient eyes of an avid curiosity"; "greedy for fame"
No your not avid. My truck failed inspection in April so it sits in my yard. I use it still to take trash out illegally but F'em. I commute 10 miles to work.
(often followed by `for') ardently or excessively desirous; "avid for adventure"; "an avid ambition to succeed"; "fierce devouring affection"; "the esurient eyes of an avid curiosity"; "greedy for fame"
No your not avid. My truck failed inspection in April so it sits in my yard. I use it still to take trash out illegally but F'em. I commute 10 miles to work.
#7
kurremkarm,
I'm with you 100%. I too made the great decisions to 1) get rid of car due to expense and 2) kicked the smoking (partly due to expense). Both were surprisingly easy - cold turkey on both. I'll grant you that it was probably the 5th + time I quit smoking, but it stuck this time. Regardless, kurremkarm, I'm glad you said it. I love riding my bike, but I'm not one to turn down a lift from a friend and I'll take the train across town rather than biking all the way (unless it is just a beautiful and I want to be outside, i.e. multi-tasking).
I'm with you 100%. I too made the great decisions to 1) get rid of car due to expense and 2) kicked the smoking (partly due to expense). Both were surprisingly easy - cold turkey on both. I'll grant you that it was probably the 5th + time I quit smoking, but it stuck this time. Regardless, kurremkarm, I'm glad you said it. I love riding my bike, but I'm not one to turn down a lift from a friend and I'll take the train across town rather than biking all the way (unless it is just a beautiful and I want to be outside, i.e. multi-tasking).
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When I quit smoking cartons of cigarettes were 20 dollars. I used to wake up every morning with a cough and this sort of constant need to clear my throat. I did try to quit many times over the years but when I finally decided to quit and to do it for myself it was easy. I remember feeling the cravings which were quite strong after 15 years of smoking and saying, man i want a cigarette. But i would always reply to myself, it doesnt matter because you aren't going to smoke, reguardless.
That was how i quit. I wanted to. I acknowledged my cravings. I said I won't smoke anyways. Oh yeah, and use a patch.
Getting rid of the car was the same sort of positive affirmation of life that quitting smoking was, it was a longterm view on life that was all about me.
That was how i quit. I wanted to. I acknowledged my cravings. I said I won't smoke anyways. Oh yeah, and use a patch.

Getting rid of the car was the same sort of positive affirmation of life that quitting smoking was, it was a longterm view on life that was all about me.
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Same here. Although I am hoping for a bit of wieghtloss to come with it.
My car stopped running due to a batterie issue last December and I just 'never got around' to fixing it. Starting taking the streetcar to work more, then I got my bike about 4 months ago. Commuting about 3-4 miles each way, more on monday, thursday and Saturday when I go to the bike project. Some of my coworkers think I'm hardcore too, especially when i got my gloves.
My car stopped running due to a batterie issue last December and I just 'never got around' to fixing it. Starting taking the streetcar to work more, then I got my bike about 4 months ago. Commuting about 3-4 miles each way, more on monday, thursday and Saturday when I go to the bike project. Some of my coworkers think I'm hardcore too, especially when i got my gloves.
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sVe

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Originally Posted by kurremkarm
When I quit smoking cartons of cigarettes were 20 dollars. I used to wake up every morning with a cough and this sort of constant need to clear my throat. I did try to quit many times over the years but when I finally decided to quit and to do it for myself it was easy. I remember feeling the cravings which were quite strong after 15 years of smoking and saying, man i want a cigarette. But i would always reply to myself, it doesnt matter because you aren't going to smoke, reguardless.
That was how i quit. I wanted to. I acknowledged my cravings. I said I won't smoke anyways. Oh yeah, and use a patch.
Getting rid of the car was the same sort of positive affirmation of life that quitting smoking was, it was a longterm view on life that was all about me.
That was how i quit. I wanted to. I acknowledged my cravings. I said I won't smoke anyways. Oh yeah, and use a patch.

Getting rid of the car was the same sort of positive affirmation of life that quitting smoking was, it was a longterm view on life that was all about me.
#11
My car gets driven once or twice a month.
As for quitting cigs... there's no cutting back IMO. you just have to wake up one day and say you're not smoking again. Find something to replace the cigs with... for me, it was exercise, for some (unfortunately), it's food.
As for quitting cigs... there's no cutting back IMO. you just have to wake up one day and say you're not smoking again. Find something to replace the cigs with... for me, it was exercise, for some (unfortunately), it's food.
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It's basic transportation for me, too. The main reasons I bike:
1) I am extremely impatient and hate waiting for buses or rides--I like the self-sufficiency it allows
2) I don't want the expense or responsibility of a car
3) The state of my mental health seems better when I'm biking as opposed to busing or driving
4) I don't exercise otherwise
1) I am extremely impatient and hate waiting for buses or rides--I like the self-sufficiency it allows
2) I don't want the expense or responsibility of a car
3) The state of my mental health seems better when I'm biking as opposed to busing or driving
4) I don't exercise otherwise
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Originally Posted by kurremkarm
I get annoyed when people I know describe me as an avid cyclist. True, I love the freedom that the bicycle represents for me in financial terms as well as independance from a car, but an avid cyclist? I don't own a car which is one of those alltime good moves that i made, like when i quit smoking 4 years ago.
I had high cholesteral, road rage, and a severely restricted income due to the economy and trying to support gas+insurance+repairs on my car. Got rid of the car more and more until November of last year, when i got rid of it for good. Winter, snow, and my bike was such a great combination. It proved to me that if I could make it in the winter i could make it period without a car.
So anyway, I love my bike, don't get me wrong, but I hardly ride the thing! I ride it a couple miles back and forth from work, to the store, to a friends house, wherever i need to go. No fitness, no fun, just basic transportation man.
Anybody else like me or am i alone here?
I had high cholesteral, road rage, and a severely restricted income due to the economy and trying to support gas+insurance+repairs on my car. Got rid of the car more and more until November of last year, when i got rid of it for good. Winter, snow, and my bike was such a great combination. It proved to me that if I could make it in the winter i could make it period without a car.
So anyway, I love my bike, don't get me wrong, but I hardly ride the thing! I ride it a couple miles back and forth from work, to the store, to a friends house, wherever i need to go. No fitness, no fun, just basic transportation man.
Anybody else like me or am i alone here?
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I also quit smoking after 15 years. Cold turkey. One of the best, if not the best decision I've ever made. Buying a bike was up there on that list of good decisions too. As of now I aspire to be car free. I use my bike as much as possible but I still need to be more confident that I can do it. I estimate a year or two before I sell my car and use the profit on a hottie track bike.
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"Just a shame that it costs so much just for a few shopping runs but I can't think of any really practical alternative."
what would a cab cost for those few shopping runs? I suspect less than your car payment/insurance/gas/maintenance per year.
what would a cab cost for those few shopping runs? I suspect less than your car payment/insurance/gas/maintenance per year.
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I ride, fix, talk about, read about bikes whenever possible. Due to my work hours and long commute, free time is at a minimum. Family comes first. I wake up early My wife complains about my obsession with bikes. People at work know me as the bike expert, even though I am not one. Does this make me an avid cyclist? Maybe. Do I care? Not really. At least they're not calling me an avid couch potato of which some of my coworkers secretly aspire to be.
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I've been car-free for almost a year now. I found that the key to doing so is getting a trailer. I have a BOB - they're about 300 bucks, but well worth it - cheaper than keeping the car around. The BOB can carry a lot of stuff despite its size - I've violated the 70lb limit several times.
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Ditto what gilby said!
I stopped by the expensive bike shop the other day for a tube. I was like "$8 for a tube?!" The sales dude quips, "find another sport!" fluk that, this is my transportation!
I'm all for more people biking, but it really doesn't help "the cause" to be a purely recreational cyclist. Be happy in the margin and that's where you'll stay... choking on exhaust or getting smacked by an SUV
--orange
I stopped by the expensive bike shop the other day for a tube. I was like "$8 for a tube?!" The sales dude quips, "find another sport!" fluk that, this is my transportation!
I'm all for more people biking, but it really doesn't help "the cause" to be a purely recreational cyclist. Be happy in the margin and that's where you'll stay... choking on exhaust or getting smacked by an SUV
--orange
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Originally Posted by orange
Ditto what gilby said!
I stopped by the expensive bike shop the other day for a tube. I was like "$8 for a tube?!" The sales dude quips, "find another sport!" fluk that, this is my transportation!
I'm all for more people biking, but it really doesn't help "the cause" to be a purely recreational cyclist. Be happy in the margin and that's where you'll stay... choking on exhaust or getting smacked by an SUV
--orange
I stopped by the expensive bike shop the other day for a tube. I was like "$8 for a tube?!" The sales dude quips, "find another sport!" fluk that, this is my transportation!
I'm all for more people biking, but it really doesn't help "the cause" to be a purely recreational cyclist. Be happy in the margin and that's where you'll stay... choking on exhaust or getting smacked by an SUV
--orange
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Originally Posted by orange
Ditto what gilby said!
I stopped by the expensive bike shop the other day for a tube. I was like "$8 for a tube?!" The sales dude quips, "find another sport!" fluk that, this is my transportation!
I stopped by the expensive bike shop the other day for a tube. I was like "$8 for a tube?!" The sales dude quips, "find another sport!" fluk that, this is my transportation!
tubes at my shop are $3.95 for normal tubes, presta, schraeder, any size, and $5.95 for long-stem presta tubes...$4.95 for the stupid 24x3.0 electra fatti-O tubes that we had to special order, and that i'm almost certain no one will ever buy.
oh yeah, i use my bike as my primary transportation as well, but i see no reason why i can't get out on the weekends for long, relaxing, get-away-from-the-freeway-ridden-smog-infested-go-go-fast-fast-now-now-now-world rides.
GF has a car. been telling her lately that she needs to stop driving it, because she's always so worked up and grumpy when she gets home, and that's not good for her. but she needs the car to get to school (school in SF, we live in berkeley, and BART is a tremendous pain in the ass, plus it's like, $10 round-trip to get from our house to her school, 5 days a week, from august to may...) she does carpool though...
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I don't care if someone called me a avid cyclist. I generally don't ride for the sake of riding. However, I wonder how "good for the cause" avid cyclists are. Basically, I'm talking about the folks all decked out on their expensive bikes, road or mtb. Not that I'm really criticizing them, but I think that sort of rider simply reinforces the notion of bicycles being only recreational toys. And a bit of a uppity recreation, at that. The vast majority of bicycling commuters I see ride very cheap *mart bikes, and do so because they have no choice. Once in a while, I see a commuter who could probably afford a car (and probabaly has one), but chooses bike. But these folks are definitely a minority.
Basically, I think the serious biking community speaks out of both sides of it's mouth. On the one hand it wants bicycling taken more seriously. At the same time, it still treats biking as a largely recreational luxury activity/conspicuous consumption activity. I suspect all those bicycling commuters on *mart bikes are working hard to not be in any part of a bicycling community.
Basically, I think the serious biking community speaks out of both sides of it's mouth. On the one hand it wants bicycling taken more seriously. At the same time, it still treats biking as a largely recreational luxury activity/conspicuous consumption activity. I suspect all those bicycling commuters on *mart bikes are working hard to not be in any part of a bicycling community.
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Where you people buying your tubes from?! I think the local bike shop charges $5 - including labor - for the tube plus installation.




