clipless?
#51
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Clipless pedals are to bicycles like digital cameras are to photography. It's hard to go back, even if you don't particularly like the idea.
Are they necessary? No. Can you ride without them? Yes, even a road bike.
But if you do some serious fitness riding, you probably benefit from having some kind of device to keep your foot on the pedal. It's not just the idea of pulling up on the upstroke. Even if you don't do that at all, there is still an efficiency gain due to the fact that you don't hold back or waste any energy trying to keep your foot on the pedal. Toe clips and straps do that too, but not with the same level of convenience as clipless pedals do... if only because there are no straps to tighten and loosen. Because of that, they are actually safer... much safer in fact.
If you ride with toe clips but with loose straps, that's not the same thing. Clipless compares to full toe clips with straps tightened, but without that major inconvenience.
I can happily live the rest of my life without ever feeling I need a threadless headset and stem system, or without anything more than 9 speeds in back, but all in all, I prefer my clipless pedals for longer, faster rides.
Are they necessary? No. Can you ride without them? Yes, even a road bike.
But if you do some serious fitness riding, you probably benefit from having some kind of device to keep your foot on the pedal. It's not just the idea of pulling up on the upstroke. Even if you don't do that at all, there is still an efficiency gain due to the fact that you don't hold back or waste any energy trying to keep your foot on the pedal. Toe clips and straps do that too, but not with the same level of convenience as clipless pedals do... if only because there are no straps to tighten and loosen. Because of that, they are actually safer... much safer in fact.
If you ride with toe clips but with loose straps, that's not the same thing. Clipless compares to full toe clips with straps tightened, but without that major inconvenience.
I can happily live the rest of my life without ever feeling I need a threadless headset and stem system, or without anything more than 9 speeds in back, but all in all, I prefer my clipless pedals for longer, faster rides.
#53
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From: Riverside, Rhode Island
Bikes: Raleigh Competition, HardLand FS1000, Specialized Allez, Shwinn Prelude, Shwinn StingRay, GT Silver Comp, Torker Unicycle and an ancient Soviet road bike.
I can't get my Shim road pedals off my Ultegra crank
#54
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From: Davis/Lafayette, CA
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tired of my wellgo spd mtb pedals. love my mtb shoes though.
should i go time atacs or bebops? I like the larger cleat of the bebop (maybe reduce chance of hotspots), but time atacs are widely recommended and a bit cheaper.
these would probably be used on both my road and mountain bikes
should i go time atacs or bebops? I like the larger cleat of the bebop (maybe reduce chance of hotspots), but time atacs are widely recommended and a bit cheaper.
these would probably be used on both my road and mountain bikes
#57
What's relevant is what is closest to to the ground as you go through the bottom of the crank rotation while leaned way over in a corner. I don't see how you can get any part of your foot lower at any point than the outer edge of the pedal cage as you lean through a turn.
#58
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Me too. I have 105 pedals on my fixed gear bike (which are pretty much the DA pedals from a few years back). I'll even ride to work in rubber-soled dress shoes. I wouldn't try it with leather soles, though.
#59
really, my theory is that in cycling if the name implies it exists, it doesn't and vice versa. ie clipless actually clip and tubulars actually have no tubes.
#61
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That and the cleats are big enough that they make walking in the shoes a bit hard on hard and smooth surfaces. Not as bad as road clipless, but enough to cause you to slide around on the floor.
you only think the name doesn't make sense because you're not old enough to remember what came before. in the olden days, serious foot retention was done with a combination of slotted cleats, toe clips and straps. when look came out with their first retention system, the really noticable thing about it was that there were no toe clips. hence the name clipless.
really, my theory is that in cycling if the name implies it exists, it doesn't and vice versa. ie clipless actually clip and tubulars actually have no tubes.
really, my theory is that in cycling if the name implies it exists, it doesn't and vice versa. ie clipless actually clip and tubulars actually have no tubes.
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#64
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you only think the name doesn't make sense because you're not old enough to remember what came before. in the olden days, serious foot retention was done with a combination of slotted cleats, toe clips and straps. when look came out with their first retention system, the really noticable thing about it was that there were no toe clips. hence the name clipless.
really, my theory is that in cycling if the name implies it exists, it doesn't and vice versa. ie clipless actually clip and tubulars actually have no tubes.
really, my theory is that in cycling if the name implies it exists, it doesn't and vice versa. ie clipless actually clip and tubulars actually have no tubes.
#70
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I like my bebops, but I'm going to switch out to ATACs because it's a hassle to share the same pedals between 3 bikes and for bebops that 3x$90 minimum.
That and the cleats are big enough that they make walking in the shoes a bit hard on hard and smooth surfaces. Not as bad as road clipless, but enough to cause you to slide around on the floor.
That and the cleats are big enough that they make walking in the shoes a bit hard on hard and smooth surfaces. Not as bad as road clipless, but enough to cause you to slide around on the floor.
or maybe i'll just get it over with and buy a road set up. considering sidi genius 2's with dura ace pedals. dunno what a proper price for that would be
#71
I just bought some cheap diadora shoes and clipless pedals off nashbar to try out.
https://www.nashbar.com/webapp/wcs/s...0052_508301_-1
https://www.nashbar.com/webapp/wcs/s...0052_133805_-1
https://www.nashbar.com/webapp/wcs/s...0052_508301_-1
https://www.nashbar.com/webapp/wcs/s...0052_133805_-1
#73
Question- I'm going to get take the plunge into clipless and I've decided on these shoes - https://revolutioncycles.com/product/...es-52667-1.htm
(thanks to catnap for the blog article)
My next question is, it seems there's a few different pedal options for me such as SPD or platform (possibly DX also?). I'm a total noob when it comes to clipless setups, so what should I go with? Differences between them? Bonus points for giving me a link to pedals that will work good but are under 70$(ish)
(thanks to catnap for the blog article)
My next question is, it seems there's a few different pedal options for me such as SPD or platform (possibly DX also?). I'm a total noob when it comes to clipless setups, so what should I go with? Differences between them? Bonus points for giving me a link to pedals that will work good but are under 70$(ish)
#74
my first piece of advice is to do some searchin' around this forum and that mtb review site and try and think about what features are important to you (easy clip in, price, "mud shedding" (whatever the heck that is), float, availability of replacement parts &c.) then choose your pedal system and ignore what everyone else has to say.
my second piece of advice is to get egg beaters -- if you don't you're skinny-panted hipster!
ignore my second piece of advice.
#75
man, that's a can o' bees you're going to open there. people get real worked up about their choice of pedal systems.
my first piece of advice is to do some searchin' around this forum and that mtb review site and try and think about what features are important to you (easy clip in, price, "mud shedding" (whatever the heck that is), float, availability of replacement parts &c.) then choose your pedal system and ignore what everyone else has to say.
my second piece of advice is to get egg beaters -- if you don't you're skinny-panted hipster!
ignore my second piece of advice.
my first piece of advice is to do some searchin' around this forum and that mtb review site and try and think about what features are important to you (easy clip in, price, "mud shedding" (whatever the heck that is), float, availability of replacement parts &c.) then choose your pedal system and ignore what everyone else has to say.
my second piece of advice is to get egg beaters -- if you don't you're skinny-panted hipster!
ignore my second piece of advice.





