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Kenneth 03-02-10 08:29 AM

Fedex is saying I should receive the bike on Friday 3/5. I won't be able to post pics until Monday at best because I'll be on a snowboarding trip this weekend.

I have been doing a lot of research into parts and such while waiting on this thing to arrive. I haven't bought anything yet obviously, but I seem to be going back and forth about which crankset I should get, assuming I wont refurb the old one. So, what's a good crankset to get for, say, $80-$100? None of that colored crap...shiny polished metal is nice.

Kenneth 03-08-10 09:02 AM

I received the bike this weekend and will be posting pictures when I get home from work this evening. I have figured it to be a '77 or '78 UO-8 based off emblems, decals, and the old catalogs found here http://www.cyclespeugeot.com/

I started disassembly last night and most of it went fairly easily, I'm just left with the bottom bracket and cranks. I figure I'll need a BB tool, but how do I get the cranks off?

cheers

PedallingATX 03-08-10 10:08 AM

you need to use a crank puller. These can be found at any LBS or at a bike co op, which I'm sure you have somewhere in Boston. When you use the crank puller, make sure to put plenty of grease on the threads. Also make sure to thread it in fully. Stripping those threads sucks.

Raiden 03-08-10 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Kenneth (Post 10495829)
I received the bike this weekend and will be posting pictures when I get home from work this evening. I have figured it to be a '77 or '78 UO-8 based off emblems, decals, and the old catalogs found here http://www.cyclespeugeot.com/

I started disassembly last night and most of it went fairly easily, I'm just left with the bottom bracket and cranks. I figure I'll need a BB tool, but how do I get the cranks off?

cheers

I'm assuming you've got cottered cranks- you need to knock the pin out of each crank before pulling the crank off.

Edit: forgive my lack of a link to Sheldon :)

TejanoTrackie 03-08-10 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by PedallingATX (Post 10496075)
you need to use a crank puller. These can be found at any LBS or at a bike co op, which I'm sure you have somewhere in Boston. When you use the crank puller, make sure to put plenty of grease on the threads. Also make sure to thread it in fully. Stripping those threads sucks.

Incorrect. The OP's bike has cottered cranks.

TejanoTrackie 03-08-10 10:18 AM


Originally Posted by Raiden (Post 10496107)
I'm assuming you've got cottered cranks- you need to knock the pin out of each crank before pulling the crank off.

See here >>>> http://sheldonbrown.com/tooltips/cotters.html

Kenneth 03-08-10 10:25 AM


Originally Posted by Raiden (Post 10496107)
I'm assuming you've got cottered cranks- you need to knock the pin out of each crank before pulling the crank off.

Edit: forgive my lack of a link to Sheldon :)


Anyone ever done Sheldon's method? Seems like there's lots of room for error. If you've got tips, I'm listening.

Raiden 03-08-10 10:37 AM

I've never felt the desire to salvage or re-use a set of cottered cranks, nor have I ever worked on any that were particularly valuable, so careful hammer blows sound OK to me. I've also used narrow, blunt tools directly on the cotter pin, and blocks of wood are always good at preventing scratches.

edit: spelling

Kenneth 03-08-10 10:53 AM


Originally Posted by Raiden (Post 10496203)
I've never felt the desire to salvage or re-use a set of cottered cranks, not have I ever worked on any that were particularly valuable, so careful hammer blows sound OK to me. I've also used narrow, blunt tools directly on the cotter pin, and blocks of wood are always good at preventing scratches.

I won't be reusing the cranks.....so I don't need to worry about damaging anything? Aside from missing and damaging the frame

Raiden 03-08-10 02:32 PM

Hah, you don't need to swing it like a pickaxe- just tap it. Hopefully it'll slide right out.

wroomwroomoops 03-08-10 02:39 PM


Originally Posted by teedoff087 (Post 10446918)
Is your dad a communist?

Why yes, my dad is a communist. We don't get along that great, btw.

O-Town 03-08-10 02:41 PM

Yes...I've tried Sheldon's method and it worked after some pretty heavy pounding. Since you're not using the BB again, pound away.

Just make sure and use a support as Sheldon suggests.

wroomwroomoops 03-08-10 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by Kenneth (Post 10496272)
I won't be reusing the cranks.....so I don't need to worry about damaging anything? Aside from missing and damaging the frame

As long as you don't miss and damage your kneecap, fingers or genitalia, you should be fine.

Kenneth 03-08-10 07:05 PM

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Kenneth 03-08-10 07:35 PM

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I'm still having trouble understanding how to get the cranks off...

ichitz 03-08-10 07:42 PM

u need a crank puller
EDIT: like this.

Raiden 03-08-10 08:13 PM

Looks like PedallingATX called it. I assumed a cottered crank, based on the supposed age.

A crank puller is a good investment for working on all but the newest bikes.

JohnDThompson 03-08-10 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by ichitz (Post 10498611)
u need a crank puller
EDIT: like this.

No, not like that, actually.

The OP's crank appears to be pre-1982 Stronglight, which means a unique puller (23.35mm x 1.0 thread vs 22.0mm x 1.0):
http://www.velobase.com/VeloImages/T...7169D678D.jpeg

TejanoTrackie 03-08-10 09:21 PM


Originally Posted by Raiden (Post 10498774)
Looks like PedallingATX called it. I assumed a cottered crank, based on the supposed age.

A crank puller is a good investment for working on all but the newest bikes.

Well, if it were a 1977 or 1978 UO8, then it would have a steel cottered crank. It might be something like a UO9 or UO10 that came with aluminum 3-pin cotterless cranks.

TejanoTrackie 03-08-10 09:32 PM

OP - What size socket did you need to remove the bolt? If it was 16mm hex, then JohnDThompson is correct and you will need a 23.35mm puller. The required tool is a Var 11

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/var/pages/var0014.html

Kenneth 03-09-10 07:56 AM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 10499187)
OP - What size socket did you need to remove the bolt? If it was 16mm hex, then JohnDThompson is correct and you will need a 23.35mm puller. The required tool is a Var 11

http://www.sheldonbrown.com/var/pages/var0014.html


Nope...I used a 14mm


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 10499123)
Well, if it were a 1977 or 1978 UO8, then it would have a steel cottered crank. It might be something like a UO9 or UO10 that came with aluminum 3-pin cotterless cranks.

it does seem to fit the description of the U09 very well.

Kenneth 03-09-10 10:20 AM

thinking ahead...thoughts on this wheelset? http://www.bicyclewheels.com/merchan...egory_Code=FGW

TejanoTrackie 03-09-10 10:44 AM


Originally Posted by Kenneth (Post 10500348)
Nope...I used a 14mm

Well, in that case it is probably a post-1982 Stronglight crankset, which will use a standard 22mm crank puller. These are much easier to find than the old 23.35mm pullers.

TejanoTrackie 03-09-10 10:49 AM


Originally Posted by Kenneth (Post 10500925)
thinking ahead...thoughts on this wheelset? http://www.bicyclewheels.com/merchan...egory_Code=FGW

The only thing I don't like about those wheels is that the rear hub has a super-long rear axle so you can use it with a frame with 130mm rear dropout spacing. This means that on your frame, which probably has 120mm dropouts, you will have a lot of axle sticking out. This looks goofy, and can actually be a hazard.

Kenneth 03-09-10 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 10501025)
Well, in that case it is probably a post-1982 Stronglight crankset, which will use a standard 22mm crank puller. These are much easier to find than the old 23.35mm pullers.

What are these measurements? I have a digital caliper to measure with. Is it the inner diameter of the cranks...seen here:


Originally Posted by Kenneth (Post 10498570)



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