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cervelo48 02-23-10 09:13 AM

More trendy than functional?
 
Is this topic prone to flaming?

It seems to be a minimalistic fixed gear bicycle with no brakes doesn't serve as anything but something you can ride around in the parking lot. Does advantage of saving a bit of weight and a bit of aerodynamic and a bit of bike real estate justify the disadvantage of not having brakes? I think, most would agree, that having brakes provides added security in any riding situation. Also, a fixed gear bike isn't too good on fast, long, hilly bike rides. Most fixed gear riders I've seen around (the Toronto area) do not at all look like fast or safe or responsible bike riders.

It seems to be a disadvantage in almost every situation compared to a SS with brakes or a fixed with brakes. So, is a minimalistic fixed gear bicycle more trendy than anything?

dookie 02-23-10 09:15 AM

hmmm...here's something new to think about.

idiq 02-23-10 09:20 AM

ZZzzZZzz...

Scrodzilla 02-23-10 09:39 AM

Again, really???

kyselad 02-23-10 09:54 AM

Brakeless riding provides a zen connection to the bike and trains one not only to think ahead, but also to look through solid objects to see hazards not apparent to cyclists with brakes, let alone those pantywaists running gears. But this stuff is all over the internetz anyway, so read up and check back in later.

Mongoose441 02-23-10 09:55 AM

You my friend are a taste maker

TejanoTrackie 02-23-10 09:58 AM

Hey, it's still safer than driving a Toyota.

Inertianinja 02-23-10 10:03 AM

obviously, brakes make a bike safer.
some people are able to adequately control a bike without brakes, and don't use brakes. for various reasons.
some people are able to adequately control a bike without brakes, but choose to ride with brakes anyway.
some people are unable to adequately able to control a bike without brakes, but choose to ride without brakes anyway because they like the way it looks, or is trendy, etc.

it is not my place, nor is it anyone elses, to judge another's choices unless they directly put us in danger. which is not likely.
it is most certainly not our place to judge another's choices based on whether we feel they are, as cyclists, more or less "authentic" as we.
it is most hypocritical to judge another for making a choice based on aesthetics, since we all do it to some extent.

CLIFF NOTES: stop

hairnet 02-23-10 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by Inertianinja (Post 10440169)
obviously, brakes make a bike safer.
some people are able to adequately control a bike without brakes, and don't use brakes. for various reasons.
some people are able to adequately control a bike without brakes, but choose to ride with brakes anyway.
some people are unable to adequately able to control a bike without brakes, but choose to ride without brakes anyway because they like the way it looks, or is trendy, etc.

it is not my place, nor is it anyone elses, to judge another's choices unless they directly put us in danger. which is not likely.
it is most certainly not our place to judge another's choices based on whether we feel they are, as cyclists, more or less "authentic" as we.
it is most hypocritical to judge another for making a choice based on aesthetics, since we all do it to some extent.

CLIFF NOTES: stop

I don't want those jackasses riding near me. They're all over the place and have come close to making me crash. I also don't feel like seeing other people getting killed and at times I'm amazed I haven't seen one of them killed.

Inertianinja 02-23-10 10:11 AM


Originally Posted by hairnet (Post 10440199)
I don't want those jackasses riding near me. They're all over the place and have come close to making me crash.

you win the thread!

PedallingATX 02-23-10 10:21 AM

stfu

LoRoK 02-23-10 10:24 AM


Originally Posted by cervelo48 (Post 10439907)
It seems to be a minimalistic fixed gear bicycle with no brakes doesn't serve as anything but something you can ride around in the parking lot.

Wrong. I ride my bike everywhere, ~40-50 miles a day.


Originally Posted by cervelo48 (Post 10439907)
I think, most would agree, that having brakes provides added security in any riding situation.

Duh. A wise rider also knows that having brakes will help him/her go faster. However, not all track bikes can accept brakes, and many of us make do just fine without. Not having a brake changes a rider's skill-set; and a good rider rides within his/her abilities.


Originally Posted by cervelo48 (Post 10439907)
Also, a fixed gear bike isn't too good on fast, long, hilly bike rides.

Are you making an assumption, or have you tried? A fixed gear may not be the easiest choice to ride on fast, long, hilly rides but it doesn't mean it isn't "too good." I ride fast. I go out for long, fun, hilly rides. I've ridden across mountain ranges.

chevy42083 02-23-10 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 10440144)
Hey, it's still safer than driving a Toyota.

I think OP meant brakeless in general, that includes toyota.

carbondated 02-23-10 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by LoRoK (Post 10440287)

Duh. A wise rider also knows that having brakes will help him/her go faster. However, not all track bikes can accept brakes, and many of us make do just fine without. Not having a brake changes a rider's skill-set; and a good rider rides within his/her abilities.


haha what a complete durf.

LupinIII 02-23-10 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by chevy42083 (Post 10440363)
I think OP meant brakeless in general, that includes toyota.

10 points to gryffindor

erichsia 02-23-10 01:09 PM

Big Bris didn't stop himself by skitching between 2 busses, he stopped 2 busses from hurtling out of control!

Mos6502 02-23-10 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by cervelo48 (Post 10439907)
Also, a fixed gear bike isn't too good on fast, long, hilly bike rides.

You also forgot that they are not good for riding underwater, inside of erupting volcanoes, or inside of my dishwasher.

shinyandfree 02-23-10 03:08 PM

This forum is really starting to depress me.

OjaiYoda 02-23-10 05:12 PM

this
http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1439/...44076f0ccb.jpg

ichitz 02-23-10 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by OjaiYoda (Post 10442217)

i want that on a tshirt. Maybe scrod can make one, hmm? :rolleyes:

carleton 02-23-10 05:36 PM


Originally Posted by cervelo48 (Post 10439907)
Is this topic prone to flaming?

It seems to be a minimalistic fixed gear bicycle with no brakes doesn't serve as anything but something you can ride around in the parking lot. Does advantage of saving a bit of weight and a bit of aerodynamic and a bit of bike real estate justify the disadvantage of not having brakes? I think, most would agree, that having brakes provides added security in any riding situation. Also, a fixed gear bike isn't too good on fast, long, hilly bike rides. Most fixed gear riders I've seen around (the Toronto area) do not at all look like fast or safe or responsible bike riders.

It seems to be a disadvantage in almost every situation compared to a SS with brakes or a fixed with brakes. So, is a minimalistic fixed gear bicycle more trendy than anything?

You are sort of kicking a hornets nest over here.

There is no *single* reason why people ride fixed gear bikes. Fixed gear just describes how the bike works. There are still different uses for the bike.

Think of a manual transmission used in a car. These are generally considered fuel efficient. Some use them for high school cars, A-B basic transport cars, sports cars, car show cars, race cars, etc... So, saying "Isn't an economical manual transmission in a V8 sort of an oxymoron?" is you missing the point.

Also, people don't *exclusively* use tennis shoes for tennis, blue jeans for prospecting for gold, SUV for sports or utility...

Sixty Fiver 02-23-10 06:49 PM

"Brakeless riding provides a zen connection to the bike and trains one not only to think ahead, but also to look through solid objects to see hazards not apparent to cyclists with brakes, let alone those pantywaists running gears."

:lol:

Retro Grouch 02-23-10 08:00 PM

Brakes are over rated. All they do is slow you down.

Scrodzilla 02-23-10 08:56 PM


Originally Posted by ichitz (Post 10442306)
i want that on a tshirt. Maybe scrod can make one, hmm? :rolleyes:

I've seen that before during random internet image searches and have considered it.

Brian 02-23-10 09:12 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 10440034)
Again, really???

Jerk.


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