So, this frame is really pretty and i was thinking about grabbing a frame/fork, but i just noticed that they are charging 500 dollars for 4130 chromo. is this a rip off?

that's what you pay for "pretty."

well, seeing as i can also pay thousands of dollars for "pretty" as well, you didn't answer my question. thanks though... anyone with real advice?

are those affinity hand built?or mass produced? :\

are you really coming on here asking is a purchase is worth it?

will you regret it if you spend 500 dollars on it? the it isn't worth it
will you not regret it if you spend 500 dollars on it? then it is worth it.

If you like the look and will enjoy the bike, then the $500 will be worth it to you since it's YOU who is riding it. I personally think you could do better since the geo for the bike isn't even comfy for long distance rides (especially if you ride in the drops). It's a nice looking bike though.

they're even prettier in person and though i've never ridden one most 4130 frames are pretty indestructable...

Have you ridden the lo pro?

It's a sweet frame, but it's simply not practical, like any other pursuit style frame, at least for street. Most of my friends who have had them end up selling them a few months later for something less aggressive.

But I will admit the thought of a black lo pro has crossed my mind on more than a few occasions.

After test riding one I passed. It's a good looking alternative to all of the cookie cutter frames out there.
But, (for me) I didn't see any practical benefit of riding a pursuit inspired frame on the streets.
If you're gonna run bullhorns / risers you should be fine.
But if you put some deep drop bars on, it will look pretty but the saddle to bar drop with be a b*&&h....

And I say $500 isn't that bad for a bike that actually looks a lil different from all the rest.

I wouldn't pay $500 for a cro-mo track fame that lacked more durable dropouts.

I used to like the look, but i bought a real tt bike that was more low and more pro and found out how useless the geo is.

and whenever i see someone riding a lo pro with risers they invariably look like a tool.

Yeah, I agree.

I think the pursuit look became popular because of a "the more track-specific, the better" attitude. Plus it was a bit different, for sure. But folks could never actually ride the streets in the bullhorns* with the geometry of the bike. So risers were added and it became a funny bike. Not really good for anything.


*Pursuit bikes are built to be used with bullhorns or bullhorns + aero bars.

Seems like if you just didn't have a large amount of seatpost showing the saddle to bar drop would be pretty reasonable. I've never ridden one of those frames but I've held one in my hands. It was well-crafted and felt pretty light.

Doesn't that usually mean they already bought something?

thanks for all of the input guys, i appreciate it... i have NOT bought this frame yet.
just asking for advice as research for my next bike. i think that with all of the comments
on the pursuit geometry being hard on your back i'll probably pass. my back isn't in the
best shape these days.

but that's not how it's supposed to fit. it's supposed to put you in a super crouched useless on the street position. even if it doesn't kill your back (it wasn't too bad going to school on my shogun with a backpack) but i couldn't see **** ahead of me. my neck would hurt after a couple miles

and this was with bullhorns, drops never did and never will belong on a bike like this

Thats my old bike up there^^ Gotta say, I loved it. It was super tight, solid and agile. Even with the sloping TT, it wasn't as aggressive as you would think. I never rode drops on it. I wanted to, but I think drops on that bike would be a bit too much for the street. The bullhorns I rode (with the slight drop they had) was enough for me. I did ride in the horns quite a bit. I rode it for a year, and it was a lot of fun. IMO worth the money.