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AngryScientist 03-10-10 08:50 PM

belt driven fixed gear???
 
apparently rock racing thinks so...
http://www.bikerumor.com/wp-content/...elt-fixie4.jpg

j3ffr3y 03-10-10 10:03 PM

what is the context for this?

Deshi 03-10-10 10:05 PM

I think its a sweet idea.

AaronH 03-10-10 10:09 PM

Trek has one too..
http://www.trekbikes.com/us/en/bikes...rict/district/

evilcryalotmore 03-10-10 10:11 PM

My brother is a rock racer.

Deshi 03-10-10 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by AaronH (Post 10509491)

Alloy SS cassette hub; alloy deep section color matched rims

From the parts list of that bike. A.K.A. its a single speed, not a fixed.

Deshi 03-10-10 10:19 PM


Originally Posted by evilcryalotmore (Post 10509495)
My brother is a rock racer.

Rock crawling?

BoozyMcliverRot 03-11-10 04:35 AM

Why is this even a thread? Are new bikes with semi new tech worthy of creating a thread?

AngryScientist 03-11-10 06:44 AM


Originally Posted by BoozyMcliverRot (Post 10510209)
Why is this even a thread? Are new bikes with semi new tech worthy of creating a thread?

get up on the wrong side of the bed there bozo? have you read some of the other threads in SSFG?

i think its a sweet idea, and i'm excited about more companies jumping on board with belt drive, its a nice chain alternative, and i bet its stealthy quiet and smooth. time will tell if these things catch on.

j3ffr3y 03-11-10 07:22 AM

I always thought that the trek carbon drive was FG? Is it not?

Deshi 03-11-10 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by j3ffr3y (Post 10510461)
I always thought that the trek carbon drive was FG? Is it not?

Not according to their component list on their website.

wroomwroomoops 03-11-10 08:44 AM


Originally Posted by AngryScientist (Post 10509130)
apparently rock racing thinks so...
http://www.bikerumor.com/wp-content/...elt-fixie4.jpg

It's a fine singlespeed bike. I am not sure yet, how I feel about having to open the left seatstay when having to replace t he belt.

Also, are those chainstays or beltstays now?

What does worry me is the sand that this belt might trap under the teeth of the chainring and cog. That could reduce the working life of those components. Luckily, since it is not a fixed gear bike, you don't need to have the belt constantly running.

wroomwroomoops 03-11-10 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by AngryScientist (Post 10509130)
apparently rock racing thinks so...

Apparently, he doesn't!

Deshi 03-11-10 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 10510704)
since it is not a fixed gear bike

Im not posative on the one in the picture but according to this article, They are offering a belt drive fixed gear.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rock...s-product-line


The 4815 "fixie" line, so named after Ball's favorite track gear ratio of 48x15, includes both a chain drive and belt drive models.

wroomwroomoops 03-11-10 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by Deshi (Post 10510761)
Im not posative on the one in the picture but according to this article, They are offering a belt drive fixed gear.

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/rock...s-product-line


Since that picture is the only reference provided by the OP, that's the only thing I commented about. To illustrate this, let's say the OP started a thread titled "It is true: pigs CAN fly!", and then put a picture of a wild boar ****ting in the forest, you would probably comment that that's definitely not a flying pig.

As for you not being positive "on the one in the picture", I need to point out that what is visible is very clearly a cassette hub covered with spacers to correct the chainline.

Kenneth 03-11-10 09:17 AM

motorcycles do it

Deshi 03-11-10 09:27 AM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 10510805)
As for you not being positive "on the one in the picture", I need to point out that what is visible is very clearly a cassette hub covered with spacers to correct the chainline.

Well what do you want me to say. I have yet to have my coffee this morning.....ass.

wroomwroomoops 03-11-10 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by Kenneth (Post 10510854)
motorcycles do it

Historically, motorbikes used belts for transmission. But belt drive has been almost universally replaced by chain drive. Do you wonder why?

wroomwroomoops 03-11-10 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by Deshi (Post 10510892)
....ass.

I'm sure my wife agrees with that statement.

BTW, you can write "ass" on BF? How about dick? Penis? *******?

TejanoTrackie 03-11-10 10:50 AM

OK you guys, cool it!

illdthedj 03-11-10 11:11 AM

so what exactly are the pros/cons of this belt drive?

kyselad 03-11-10 11:57 AM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 10510704)
I am not sure yet, how I feel about having to open the left seatstay when having to replace t he belt.

...

What does worry me is the sand that this belt might trap under the teeth of the chainring and cog. That could reduce the working life of those components.

Why does the left stay need to open?

Regarding sand, I don't see how a belt is worse than a chain. Lubricants trap some nasty stuff on a chain, especially the lubricants I use when conditions are nasty enough to catch lots of road grime in the drivetrain.

TejanoTrackie 03-11-10 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by kyselad (Post 10511622)
Why does the left stay need to open?

Since a belt cannot be broken and reasembled like a chain, it cannot be removed or installed without passing through the seatstay.

Deshi 03-11-10 12:34 PM

Wouldnt that mean the right stay needs to open, not the left?

TejanoTrackie 03-11-10 01:17 PM


Originally Posted by Deshi (Post 10511815)
Wouldnt that mean the right stay needs to open, not the left?

My bad. I missed the part about "left" Yes, it is the right seatstay.

AngryScientist 03-11-10 02:28 PM


Originally Posted by kyselad (Post 10511622)

Regarding sand, I don't see how a belt is worse than a chain. Lubricants trap some nasty stuff on a chain, especially the lubricants I use when conditions are nasty enough to catch lots of road grime in the drivetrain.

yes, i think what attracts the sand and grime is the lubricant itself, i would think a totally dry belt would pick up much less abrasive grit.

wroomwroomoops 03-11-10 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Deshi (Post 10511815)
Wouldnt that mean the right stay needs to open, not the left?

Hahah, looks like you cought up with your cofee intake, huh? Yeah, I meant right seatstay.

Syscrush 03-11-10 03:36 PM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 10511156)
Historically, motorbikes used belts for transmission. But belt drive has been almost universally replaced by chain drive. Do you wonder why?

I'm not sure you really know what you're talking about.

H-D, Buell, BMW, and Hyosung have belt-driven bikes in their lineups.

Personally, I'd love to rock a belt drive fixed gear bike. You go from a low-maintenance drivetrain to an effectively no-maintenance drivetrain.

TejanoTrackie 03-11-10 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Syscrush (Post 10512685)
I'm not sure you really know what you're talking about.

H-D, Buell, BMW, and Hyosung have belt-driven bikes in their lineups.

Personally, I'd love to rock a belt drive fixed gear bike. You go from a low-maintenance drivetrain to an effectively no-maintenance drivetrain.

Actually HD and Buell have been 100% belt drive for 20 years. My two Harleys have 70K miles and nearly 100K miles on their belts. They have belt guards to prevent stones from getting between the sprocket and the belt, which could cause serious damage. They are completely maintenance free, do not stretch, are clean and very quiet. The biggest disadvantage that I can see with a single gear setup is that it is difficult and expensive to change gearing. I really like the idea with a multispeed internal hub setup such as the Trek Soho.

RhodeRunner 03-11-10 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by wroomwroomoops (Post 10510805)
As for you not being positive "on the one in the picture", I need to point out that what is visible is very clearly a cassette hub covered with spacers to correct the chainline.

beltline.


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