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Old 05-13-10 | 06:21 AM
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Dont need a cog that expensive, ESPECIALLY if you're new.
Dura-ace, Surly, and EAI cogs can all be had for under $35
Truth. You'd be better off spending that money on several less expensive cogs so you can play around with different gear ratios.
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As it states clearly on Phil Wood's site, the EAI, Surly cogs are not healthy for Phil Wood hubs.

I would double check that statement and be sure before putting your money into a cog that could potentially strip the threads of those Phil's. Personally, I would invest in a Phil cog. You ever touch or use one, you'll know why. I cringe when I see Phil hubs with EAI cogs. That EAI **** is junk.
someone drinking the phil wood hub koolaid will probably find phil wood cog koolaid mighty fine.
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Originally Posted by illnacord
As it states clearly on Phil Wood's site, the EAI, Surly cogs are not healthy for Phil Wood hubs.

I would double check that statement and be sure before putting your money into a cog that could potentially strip the threads of those Phil's. Personally, I would invest in a Phil cog. You ever touch or use one, you'll know why. I cringe when I see Phil hubs with EAI cogs. That EAI **** is junk.
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someone drinking the phil wood hub koolaid will probably find phil wood cog koolaid mighty fine.
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Old 05-13-10 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by illnacord
As it states clearly on Phil Wood's site, the EAI, Surly cogs are not healthy for Phil Wood hubs.
the phil wood website is highly objective. buy phil wood!
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Old 05-13-10 | 11:39 AM
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I have Phil hubs with my EAI gold star. Threads are a-ok.
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Old 05-13-10 | 12:07 PM
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the phil wood website is highly objective. buy phil wood!
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Old 05-13-10 | 12:12 PM
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Old 05-13-10 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by adriano
someone drinking the phil wood hub koolaid will probably find phil wood cog koolaid mighty fine.
mmmm...kool-aid.

i just replaced my virtually unworn EAI black (w/~7k on it) with a phil. why? bling, duh? and it matches my silver volos.

i wipe my chain with an egyptian cotton diaper soaked in artisan extra virgin olive oil at least three times every ride, so i'm not worried about drivetrain grime.
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mmmm...kool-aid.

i just replaced my virtually unworn EAI black (w/~7k on it) with a phil. why? bling, duh? and it matches my silver volos.

i wipe my chain with an egyptian cotton diaper soaked in artisan extra virgin olive oil at least three times every ride, so i'm not worried about drivetrain grime.
is cooking oil actually a good way to clean your chain? would make sense.
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Old 05-13-10 | 04:55 PM
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is cooking oil actually a good way to clean your chain? would make sense.
No, that makes no sense. Why would you want to clean your chain with oil? Did you mean to suggest it might make a good chain lube?
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Old 05-13-10 | 05:18 PM
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No, that makes no sense. Why would you want to clean your chain with oil? Did you mean to suggest it might make a good chain lube?
Whoops. Yeah sorry that's what I meant. I recall a friend who used olive oil to lubricate a computer mouse wheel that kept squeaking, and apparently its worked to this day.
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Old 05-13-10 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by cleanupinaisle3
is cooking oil actually a good way to clean your chain? would make sense.
chump.

you don't 'cook' with artisan extra virgin.
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Old 05-14-10 | 09:31 PM
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Old 05-15-10 | 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Germanicus
Once you put a chain on it, you can barely see it anyway. And unless your running a cog with 20+ teeth, the frame and hub virtually obscure any view of it when it's on the bike.
+1 - great reason to not buy a cog because of how awesome it looks, or if you can see the logo or brand - blah!

I like Phil cogs because, besides being high quality, they're made in the USA, which I like to support when I can afford it. Milwaukee Bicycle's cogs are made in the USA, so are (at least some of) EAI's cogs. I wish White Industries made cogs that fit on standard hubs (be it ISO or JIS), and not their own proprietary hubs. Same goes with Paul - wish they made cogs.

That said, a high-quality cog is a high-quality cog, no matter where it's made. Buy what you can afford, and enjoy your ride.
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Old 05-15-10 | 04:03 PM
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Just got them...put them All on. Very very silent. I don't think I'm used to the 48x17 yet...not as easy as 48x18 but I seem to accelerate much more quickly.
The EAI cog is made in the US too...but overall. All very quality parts. Very happy with my purchase.
Thanks for the help guys and gals.....
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Old 05-15-10 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by herbsandspices
+1 - great reason to not buy a cog because of how awesome it looks, or if you can see the logo or brand - blah!

I like Phil cogs because, besides being high quality, they're made in the USA, which I like to support when I can afford it. Milwaukee Bicycle's cogs are made in the USA, so are (at least some of) EAI's cogs. I wish White Industries made cogs that fit on standard hubs (be it ISO or JIS), and not their own proprietary hubs. Same goes with Paul - wish they made cogs.

That said, a high-quality cog is a high-quality cog, no matter where it's made. Buy what you can afford, and enjoy your ride.

The standard, cheapest black EAI Deluxe cogs are stamped Made in USA.
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Just got them...put them All on. Very very silent. I don't think I'm used to the 48x17 yet...not as easy as 48x18 but I seem to accelerate much more quickly.
The EAI cog is made in the US too...but overall. All very quality parts. Very happy with my purchase.
Thanks for the help guys and gals.....
Two things: Lubing your chain will make your cog dirty—don't do it. Also, riding will make your tires dirty—don't do it. Enjoy!
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Old 05-15-10 | 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by herbsandspices
+1 - great reason to not buy a cog because of how awesome it looks, or if you can see the logo or brand - blah!

I like Phil cogs because, besides being high quality, they're made in the USA, which I like to support when I can afford it. Milwaukee Bicycle's cogs are made in the USA, so are (at least some of) EAI's cogs. I wish White Industries made cogs that fit on standard hubs (be it ISO or JIS), and not their own proprietary hubs. Same goes with Paul - wish they made cogs.

That said, a high-quality cog is a high-quality cog, no matter where it's made. Buy what you can afford, and enjoy your ride.
**** American patriotism crap! Welcome to the global economy.
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Old 05-15-10 | 09:05 PM
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Two things: Lubing your chain will make your cog dirty—don't do it. Also, riding will make your tires dirty—don't do it. Enjoy!
Not quite true, get Pedro's Ice Wax, it keeps the chain clean!

https://www.amazon.com/Pedros-Ice-Wax-2-0/dp/B0013K38YQ
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Old 05-15-10 | 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by LoRoK
Two things: Lubing your chain will make your cog dirty—don't do it. Also, riding will make your tires dirty—don't do it. Enjoy!
Ha!! It sucks man...the oil really covers up that gold. Maybe I'll try that ice.
One thing for sure. Don't ride anywhere where there are blueberry type tree producing tree things.... rode through a crap load of them today.stained my tires purple and blue. Really sucked. Stained the nuts out ofnmy new tires...

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Old 05-15-10 | 11:42 PM
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white tires stained and gold cog blackened with oil.
THIS IS WHY WE CANT HAVE NICE THINGS.
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**** American patriotism crap! Welcome to the global economy.
Yikes... you went ahead and made the jump from me saying that I like things that are made in the USA to me not understanding (or at the very least welcome me to) Global Economics and that I'm a patriotic American. What is that saying about "assuming"? It makes an As out of Ewe and Meat? Wait, that's not it.

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Yikes... you went ahead and made the jump from me saying that I like things that are made in the USA to me not understanding (or at the very least welcome me to) Global Economics and that I'm a patriotic American. What is that saying about "assuming"? It makes an As out of Ewe and Meat? Wait, that's not it.

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