I just saw this picture:

https://www.bikefanclub.com/gallery/s...sort=1&cat=514

thats titanium but really smooth like fillet brazed. I love this look. does anyone know anything about the
builder? is he still making bikes? I couldnt find much info.

Rich Gangl is from Colorado. Back in the day I met and rode with him through a mutal friend. He's a swell guy and used to make great steel frames with fantastic lug work. For one summer I rode through the foothills outside Denver with him and seeing his name today is like going through a time warp. I have no idea what happened to him or if he's still building bikes. Back then it was a one man operation and you'd wait 6 months to get your frame, and they weren't cheap either. He had a limited, esoteric cleintele. Strong rider too. Thanks from bringing up his name. Gonna put on my Double Nickels On The Dime cd and head down nostaglia lane.

here you go https://www.bikefanclub.com/gallery/s...cat=all&page=1
article about the builder https://www.asphaltmag.com/v1n3/torchbearer.htm

ahh, thanks...2002. looks like he still might be making frames. how did you come up with that full pic? I clicked
on the other closeups but didnt see the one with the message under it. I wonder if I faint when I hear
the cost...

if you look at the bottom of the pic there are keywords, so I clicked the "Gangl" keyword