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AEO 06-29-10 07:06 AM


Originally Posted by Deshi (Post 11033903)
Ok, let me try this again since no one understands what I have written thus far.

I NEVER SAID STEEL WAS BETTER THAN CARBON FIBER.

Now that that is out of the way, yes, carbon fiber now days is a very worthy material. Hell, check out this Niner video.

does a fork deflect like that after getting squished by a peloton?

There's a difference between hits and compression.
steel sucks in compression and will buckle or squish if it's loaded up too much.
There's a reason why spokes are made from steel and it's because steel is a great material under tension.

carbon also sucks in compression, but it is stronger under certain directions of compressive forces. straight down the tube is good, but not so much against clamping forces.

TejanoTrackie 06-29-10 07:23 AM

The nonsense factor here is astounding. Please do some research on materials and mechanics before posting.

MysticRats 06-29-10 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by AEO (Post 11034259)
titanium.

http://auctionsound.s3.amazonaws.com...1447350001.jpg

Rebecca Twiggs Titanium MERLIN just sold for 400 on Ebay!!
It was my size too!!! :cry:


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=130402783337

Rebecca racing on the actual MERLIN shown above:
http://www.procyclingwomen.com/Twigg.wmv

TejanoTrackie 06-29-10 08:11 AM


Originally Posted by MysticRats (Post 11034538)
Rebecca Twiggs Titanium MERLIN just sold for 400 on Ebay!!
It was my size it was my size :cry:

But did you notice the female specific geometry for long legs and short torso? The ST is 51cm c-t but the TT is only 49cm. This is just the opposite from the proportions for a typical male. Now, if those specs were reversed, I'd have been all over it.

AEO 06-29-10 09:04 AM

you know, realistically, on a 700c wheel bike, the TT never gets shorter than 21" when you add up all the numbers.

AEO 06-29-10 09:07 AM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 11034368)
The nonsense factor here is astounding. Please do some research on materials and mechanics before posting.

rebar concrete.
concrete holds buildings up in compression.
steel bars act under tension to keep the concrete in its place when the building sways.

that's why you can hang off a 14ga spoke, but squish it with the same weight.

TejanoTrackie 06-29-10 09:52 AM

As I said, this is nonsense. The compressive strength of steel as a material is exactly the same as its tensile strength. A steel spoke is a slender column, which buckles under compression and the material itself remains elastic. The only material parameter that is pertinent in (Euler) buckling is the elastic modulus, however, the geometry of the cross-section of the structural member plays a far greater part in determining it's capacity. Same for any other other material; there is no "squishing" involved (the proper technical term is yielding). The suitability of a particular material for use as a structural element in a particular application is determined by many factors, including ability to form and shape, ability to be joined at connections, ability to be manufactured with consistency and reliability.

Tomo_Ishi 06-29-10 10:27 AM

It's kinda interesting that that ladies' frame fractured at the center. I think that frame is weak if the direction of impact (or any other type of stresses) is misaligned with frame's own orientation. (Prolly, straight pull) Also, I am thinking it is prolly weak to compression at the center where it's probably thinned to save weight and all. (Maybe it's designed to crumple like that to so debris become small quick and impact people at less force.)

I think the demo with the MTB racing carbon fork is a little different. I am pretty sure that fork is designed to take misaligned stresses which you face in trails. So if you do that on that lady's carbon track frame at the down tube center, it will probably snap.

Speaking of B*C frames, you see those tubes don't have circular cross-section. I think it's 4 wedged star-like. I bet impact stresses would focus on the wedges. I thought they were doing that to stiffen the frame. ... Give and take huh? But then I saw a guy tricking on a B*C frame before. ... Anyone know about that?

Darn you won't need to answer that. I won't be able to afford a carbon track frame anyway. :(


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