Holy ****....

i think the answer is that we're dancer.

the word "OUCH" is on her jersey. hmm.

I couldn't imagine what it would be like sliding down the track like that seeing people fly over me.

You guys must've missed it when this was first posted here....

https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...=track+machine

Vixtor is no longer the quickest gun in the west.

It doesn't look THAT terrible.

You burst my bubbles.

You can always post some crashes from the Burnaby Velodrome

That's crabon for you.

That's steel for you. And he was just riding down the street, not tumbling head-over-heels in a crash at the World Championships.

So what's your point?

what bottom bracket cup is that? it's the coolest thing i've ever seen.

The point would be that the steel frame has been stressed and stressed over and over again, then some hipster got a hold of it and decided to ride it on the streets and probably drop off curbs and generally abuse the bike. The carbon bike in the video on the other hand has almost certainly never seen anything but a perfectly smooth velodrome and is much newer with much less use.

Steel can break, no doubt about that but it takes a hell of a lot more use and abuse to break steel than it does carbon.

Not sure. Click the image and ask him on Flickr.

Whats your point? Like, at all?


EDIT: And that just looks like the lug was brazed improperly, it just came out. Repairable.

"almost certainly never seen anything but a perfectly smooth velodrome"

HAHAHA! WTF? Did you not just see Shelly Evans (the rider of the BMC) go head-over-heels then her bike get launched and flip over 5 feet in the air and it came down with the whipping rotational force!?! They were already going maybe 30MPH then the bike was whipping faster than that. No race bike would have survived that. Only a BMX bike, maybe.

You guys swear that steel bikes will save the world. Get a grip. Stop worshiping the past. It's a material of which bikes are made, not a religious icon.

It was an NJS bike. [cue choir of angels]

I'm sure the lug was brazed properly.

But, it is the metal of the gods.

First of all, yes, I watched the same video as you did and saw the same wreck you did.

Second, I never said steel is a superior material, I simply stated that the steel bike you posted was more than likely stressed over and over again and then used beyond its limits in which it was designed for.

Third, I highly doubt the steel bike would have broken into 2 separate pieces in the same wreck as in the video. Would it have survived that wreck? Probably not but it would have remained 1 in one piece.

Forth, I am going to go pray to the Tange and Columbus Gods now.

As much as I dislike carbon fiber as currently implemented by the bicycling industry (so should you) Carleton has a point. Carbon fiber is stronger than steel. Much stronger, much lighter and incredibly safe. That of course is given a perfect world where extremely high quality plastics are used in state of the art manufacturing facilities by people who truly know what they are doing with laying up the fiber and what have you along with little things commonly called research and development and quality control departments (the bicycling industry calls these customers). In this perfect case, carbon fiber spanks steel with its' pants down around its' ankles. As currently implemented in the bicycling industry, carbon fiber is sickening.

https://www.bustedcarbon.com/

I hate plastic anyway.

Ok, let me try this again since no one understands what I have written thus far.

I NEVER SAID STEEL WAS BETTER THAN CARBON FIBER.

Now that that is out of the way, yes, carbon fiber now days is a very worthy material. Hell, check out this Niner video.

Yeah, except the steel fork will probably still be rideable for much longer even after the abuse.

You're all wrong. Aluminum rules!

titanium.