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Old 07-13-10 | 11:23 AM
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You are not Hipsters...you are idiots. You worship frames too much.

What s wrong with drilling the frame. It a 30 years old one anyway. If it breaks that will teach him better than your useless comments.

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Old 07-13-10 | 12:41 PM
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i was simply asking a question about it im new to all this and i prefer a rear brake that is hidden thru the frame i would still run a front brake too. thanks to the people who were just trying to help me out in a polite way. i guess i wasnt clear y some people were so rude to me when i just got into this. the point of it was to see if anyone had done it, to the people said there wasnt any one who did it u can go sit on ur thumb because someone posted a picture that did it so u can all go **** ur know it all selves.
 
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Old 07-13-10 | 12:53 PM
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Link us to that picture.

I believe you are lying about having seen it, or are misunderstanding what was going on.
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Old 07-13-10 | 12:55 PM
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i was simply asking a question about it im new to all this and i prefer a rear brake that is hidden thru the frame i would still run a front brake too.
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i would like to have a single back brake
You have contradicted yourself.
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Old 07-13-10 | 12:59 PM
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Someone having done it doesn't make it a good idea. I'm sure you're aware of that. The point is it could weaken the frame. There's nothing wrong with breaking an old frame in and of itself. There is something wrong (very wrong) with breaking an old frame while you're riding it. A break could/would come whenever you stressed the frame adequately, and this is precisely the worst time to have it happen, since parts of the rider are likely to break as well. If you've never had the experience of having your bike give way beneath you under stress, then good for you, and you should strive to keep it that way.

Even if the tone seems a little harsh, people are trying to help you out. Also, you asked. Check in the framebuilder forum if you want a second (and better informed) opinion. Otherwise, take your offended reactions elsewhere.
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Old 07-13-10 | 01:31 PM
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thanks for all the help maybe ill try some other forum were the people arent dicks
Its not that they're being dicks, just that you ask questions and got honest answers so you got pissed 'cause its not what you want to hear. I figure if you want people that are going to lie to you then yeahh, go to another forum where the members will let you **** up your frame and let you ride with just rear brakes on a SS and get yourself killed.
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Old 07-13-10 | 01:35 PM
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I ****ing love it when people come in asking dumb questions and then get all pissy when we give them an answer. Drill away, ol' boy!
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Old 07-13-10 | 02:15 PM
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I believe that our sensitive OP is referring to the pics in post #10. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that frame made that way? The holes look way too clean to have be drilled after paint.
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Old 07-13-10 | 02:20 PM
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Yeah I gotta figure the frame was made that way, or the person who did it knew what they were doing. Either way... doesn't pertain to the OP's situation.
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Old 07-13-10 | 02:29 PM
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Old 07-13-10 | 02:48 PM
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Those holes in the picture were drilled then a braze on angled cowl fitted on top. I've had bmx frames that I beat to $hit with these tucked away cables and they were fine.

In all honesty, from my knowledge of metal working and frame building I would almost think that the holes are punched with very specific tooling, not drilled and the angled cowl is the reinforcer. However, I've not seen the process in person. Secondly, done right the frame builders route automotive steel brake line internally and braze it in a nice ovalised entry/exit eliminating the need for fishing line chasing etc.

My recommendation is skip it. Get some nice chrome cable stays or some clear 3m tape and fasten accordingly under the top tube. If you are dead set on drilling the frame then go for it, drilling in a place that you have seen other bikes with factory holes. Just paint inside the holes if you can and keep it out of the weather.

Lastly, you will not survive on the internet long if a thread such as this tips you over. I'm a sensitive cranky old man and I have a fairly thick coating of wax on my back. htfu. Recognise humour and real advice when you see it and smile more.
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Old 07-13-10 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by bmac9269
i prefer rear brakes and is there anyone els out there that has ever heard of anything like this, i would run the brake line and cable the whole length
Running a rear brake on a fixed gear is so dumb..
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Old 07-13-10 | 02:59 PM
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runrockroll a front bell.
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Old 07-13-10 | 03:00 PM
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No, running a rear bell is better on a fixed gear bicycle.
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Old 07-13-10 | 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Philasteve
Running a rear brake on a fixed gear is so dumb..
He wants to run a rear brake on a SS not a FG, still dumb, just not as dumb as wanting to drill holes in the frame for internal cable routing, but thats not as dumb as asking a question knowing you will not like the answer then getting pissy about it. ;0)
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Old 07-13-10 | 06:45 PM
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Regardless. the point of this story is JesusBananas knows everything about bicycles. And I mean that.
Ah, passing on untruths like a true disciple.

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Old 07-13-10 | 06:59 PM
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Old 07-14-10 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by bmac9269 via PM
ur an idiot
there u go there are many pictures on here of people hiding brake cables, but hey thanks for being a dick anyway its ok if u dont feel good about urself and have to put down others to feel good about urself
https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...ur-pics!/page4
half way down the page its an orange bike ur dumb mother ****er
well gosh my face is sure red now
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Old 07-14-10 | 01:16 PM
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That Santana has brake pipe brazed into the frame. No drilled holes paying bare and waiting to crack.
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Old 07-14-10 | 01:24 PM
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I'm brand new here and new to bike maintenance too so forgive my ignorance but is there a functional advantage to hiding the cable?
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Old 07-14-10 | 01:42 PM
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I would have to say no, not so much functional as aesthetic. It does look pretty damn cool, though.
If this is wrong, I'm sure some of you guys will make me well aware. Then the name calling will start up again!
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Old 07-14-10 | 01:43 PM
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That Santana has brake pipe brazed into the frame. No drilled holes paying bare and waiting to crack.
I typed a response along those lines, but he'd already deleted his account.

Guess he went somewhere else hoping for a different answer.
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Old 07-14-10 | 01:47 PM
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He's in denial, he'll just get the same answer, then get pissed off, and asks elsewhere. Repeat and repeat.
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Old 07-14-10 | 01:51 PM
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I'm brand new here and new to bike maintenance too so forgive my ignorance but is there a functional advantage to hiding the cable?
No. It makes brakes slightly harder to pull. It just looks good and the only functional advantage to it is that the cables can't get caught on anything.
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Old 07-14-10 | 02:07 PM
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I love this forum. Threads like these pop up regularly:

1. ZOMG, is my rear hub stripped? I never bother to tighten my cog and lockring.
2. What is the best way to hack off the brake bosses for my conversion?
3. ZOMG, my bars are kinda loose. I think the stem clamp is smaller than the bar diameter
4. Why do I need two brakes on my singlespeed?
5. What are the best tires for skidding?
6. B43 rims are the bomb! I don't care if they don't have a braking surface, I'll make it work!
7. I heard formula hubs are crap so I saved enough money to get a pair of Phil so they roll faster!
8. I could keep up with the roadies.
9. I ***ing hate cars but don't make fun of my vegan lifestyle.
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