Foot making contact with tire on turns... help
07-29-10 | 12:46 PM
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Foot making contact with tire on turns... help
Its pretty self explanatory: the clip extends too far so my toe/foot is making contact with it. My bike is a Mercier killo tt pro 47cm. It has been happening since i got it and ive tried to work through it but its getting pretty annoying and hazardous. Any ideas how to get rid of this problem? My feet are pretty small so maybe a smaller clip...?
07-29-10 | 12:52 PM
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it's called toe overlap. you should've known about it before you got the kilo. it's a well known fact with that bike. best thing you can do it get the smallest clip that will fit your feet. maybe smaller tires but that won't help much.
07-29-10 | 12:53 PM
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You have toe overlap. Sheldon says this about it:
I don't believe there is anything you can really do about it, since it's the frame geometry that tends to cause this to happen. Not all bikes/sizes have toe overlap, but some do.
I know that this has not been super helpful, but now you can look up "toe overlap" to see if other people have posted suggestions/solutions.
Originally Posted by Sheldon Brown
Toe Clip Overlap
On many bicycles, especially those with smaller frames and full-sized wheels, it is possible for the front fender or tire to bump into the rider's toe or to the toe clip. Some people worry a lot about this, but it is rarely a significant problem in practice. The only time it can happen is when the handlebars are turned quite far to the side, as only happens at very low speeds.
Many, many people ride bicycles with fairly severe overlap with no practical problems, sometimes having to make a slight adjustment to their pedaling habits at very slow speeds.
On smaller-size bikes with full-sized wheels, it is usually impossible to eliminate overlap without causing adverse fit/handling issues.
On many bicycles, especially those with smaller frames and full-sized wheels, it is possible for the front fender or tire to bump into the rider's toe or to the toe clip. Some people worry a lot about this, but it is rarely a significant problem in practice. The only time it can happen is when the handlebars are turned quite far to the side, as only happens at very low speeds.
Many, many people ride bicycles with fairly severe overlap with no practical problems, sometimes having to make a slight adjustment to their pedaling habits at very slow speeds.
On smaller-size bikes with full-sized wheels, it is usually impossible to eliminate overlap without causing adverse fit/handling issues.
I know that this has not been super helpful, but now you can look up "toe overlap" to see if other people have posted suggestions/solutions.
07-29-10 | 01:33 PM
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I had sick overlap on my Mercier AL frame, I just threw on the shortest pedals i own and now my Toe bite is like 1mm contact so it just rubs a little every now and then. Plus you must be turning really sharp, At 10 mph you only turn a pinch
07-29-10 | 01:34 PM
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Toe overlap is really only an issue at very low speeds, so in those cases I tend to stand up out of the saddle which allows me to point my toes down more.
07-29-10 | 01:47 PM
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Shorter cranks can help if it really bothers you.
07-29-10 | 02:31 PM
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I know it may be a dumb question, but what about a different fork to set the front wheel a touch forward? I know it would change the overall geometry, but it could be a possible solution.
07-29-10 | 04:02 PM
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Make sure the clips put your foot in the proper place on the pedal (ball of foot over axle of pedal), otherwise it can cause your feet/legs discomfort.
07-29-10 | 04:28 PM
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