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Bananas, my last post in frustration was in response to this:
However, I do appreciate the explanation after it:
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*slams head on desk*
had nothing to do with what you posted in between posts # 22 & # 24.*slams head on desk*
However, I do appreciate the explanation after it:
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Rake is how far forward the axle is from the steering axis. Trail is how far behind the tire's contact patch is from the steering axis. Trail decreases as rake increases. More trail is what makes a bike steer "twitchy" (which is why track bikes typically have shorter rakes, for greater trail, for more stability, to compensate for steep headtube angles).
Friends again ?Rake is how far forward the axle is from the steering axis. Trail is how far behind the tire's contact patch is from the steering axis. Trail decreases as rake increases. More trail is what makes a bike steer "twitchy" (which is why track bikes typically have shorter rakes, for greater trail, for more stability, to compensate for steep headtube angles).
Banana-tastic!
Haha, I couldn't even tell what was going on in Scrod's picture and actually leaned closer to the monitor and squinted. I thought the foot of the bottom squirrel was some kind of bird head at first . . .
Fuji, I know that you weren't responding to me since our posts had the same timestamp, but thank you for the clarification anyway. I would still like someone to explain whether there is "rake" in straight blade forks, though.
Fuji, I know that you weren't responding to me since our posts had the same timestamp, but thank you for the clarification anyway. I would still like someone to explain whether there is "rake" in straight blade forks, though.
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Ew....
The black one looks like the Cachet and the yellow one is just...yuckie.
I like the squirrels though, such vicious rodents.
The black one looks like the Cachet and the yellow one is just...yuckie.
I like the squirrels though, such vicious rodents.
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If the front fork is straight and has additional angle forward of the head steerer tube angle, if that's considered "rake", I have no problem with that. I just don't want the next post to bite my head off because they don't feel that way about it ? I'm very sensitive today for some reason. Can't wait for the Astros & Phillies to start @ 7:05 PM. 
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Draw an imaginary straight line through the center of the head tube that extends all the way to the ground. If the axle falls on that line, regardless of the shape/curve of the fork, rake exists. Originally Posted by JesusBananas
I would still like someone to explain whether there is "rake" in straight blade forks, though.
If the forks are straight, and there is no change in angle between steering tube and fork, there will be zero rake.
In the case of the new Fujis pictured, there is a slight bend between steering tube and forks, so the axle ends up ahead of the imaginary line.
Straight (or curved) forks can have rake (or not) depending on how things are configured.
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If the forks are straight, and there is no change in angle between steering tube and fork, there will be zero rake.
In the case of the new Fujis pictured, there is a slight bend between steering tube and forks, so the axle ends up ahead of the imaginary line.
Straight (or curved) forks can have rake (or not) depending on how things are configured.
Ah, this is what I was looking for. I was under the impression that the steering axis is parallel to the fork, but it is parallel to the headtube. Thanks for the clarification. Originally Posted by six30nine
Draw an imaginary straight line through the center of the head tube that extends all the way to the ground. If the axle falls on that line, regardless of the shape/curve of the fork, rake exists. If the forks are straight, and there is no change in angle between steering tube and fork, there will be zero rake.
In the case of the new Fujis pictured, there is a slight bend between steering tube and forks, so the axle ends up ahead of the imaginary line.
Straight (or curved) forks can have rake (or not) depending on how things are configured.
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I notice you seem to take things personally when it comes to people rationally explaining things to you. Let's all chill and be friends yes?Originally Posted by fuji86
If the front fork is straight and has additional angle forward of the head steerer tube angle, if that's considered "rake", I have no problem with that. I just don't want the next post to bite my head off because they don't feel that way about it ? I'm very sensitive today for some reason. Can't wait for the Astros & Phillies to start @ 7:05 PM.
The shop got the 2011 catalog in for fuji and the feather and track classic are still being offered.
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Oooh, so this might be another price point and model of SS/FG ?Originally Posted by Dannihilator
The shop got the 2011 catalog in for fuji and the feather and track classic are still being offered.
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That it is.Originally Posted by fuji86
Oooh, so this might be another price point and model of SS/FG ?
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MSRP, is it closer to the Classic or Feather price ? Or something higher or lower than either ?
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Haven't had a chance to see the price list.Originally Posted by fuji86
MSRP, is it closer to the Classic or Feather price ? Or something higher or lower than either ?