Our Newest Enemy
#1
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I Voted for the Green M&M

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From: Atlanta, GA
Bikes: Fixie
#3
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From: Sci-Fi Wasabi
Bikes: I built the Bianchi track bike back up today.
I don't want to see one of those with a garden care sign on the side of it.
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I Voted for the Green M&M

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With that interior, f'in socermoms are going to be driving it. I don't think our u-locks are going to be a match for these monsters.
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floor sleeper

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From: Here and there in the US
Bikes: Raleigh Twenty, Puch 3 speed road conversion, lookin' into a Karate Monkey for a cruiser
In case you didn't check out the brochure... this monster's marketing line is "The Brilliance of Common Sense."
#6
Tiocfáidh ár Lá

Joined: Dec 2003
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From: The edge of b#
Bikes: A whole bunch-a bikes.
Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
Smells like a steak, and seats thirty five?
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Hey, hey!
Twelve yards long, two lanes wide,
Sixty five tons of American pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
She blinds everybody with her super high beams
She's a squirrel-squashin', deer-smackin' drivin' machine
Canyonero! Canyonero! Canyonero!
Whoa, Canyonero! Whoa!
-From The Simpsons-
Smells like a steak, and seats thirty five?
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Hey, hey!
Twelve yards long, two lanes wide,
Sixty five tons of American pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
She blinds everybody with her super high beams
She's a squirrel-squashin', deer-smackin' drivin' machine
Canyonero! Canyonero! Canyonero!
Whoa, Canyonero! Whoa!
-From The Simpsons-
#7
2-Cyl, 1/2 HP @ 90 RPM

Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 15,762
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From: NYC
Bikes: 04' Specialized Hardrock Sport, 03' Giant OCR2 (SOLD!), 04' Litespeed Firenze, 04' Giant OCR Touring, 07' Specialized Langster Comp
Originally Posted by jfmckenna
Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
Smells like a steak, and seats thirty five?
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Hey, hey!
Twelve yards long, two lanes wide,
Sixty five tons of American pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
She blinds everybody with her super high beams
She's a squirrel-squashin', deer-smackin' drivin' machine
Canyonero! Canyonero! Canyonero!
Whoa, Canyonero! Whoa!
-From The Simpsons-
Smells like a steak, and seats thirty five?
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Hey, hey!
Twelve yards long, two lanes wide,
Sixty five tons of American pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
She blinds everybody with her super high beams
She's a squirrel-squashin', deer-smackin' drivin' machine
Canyonero! Canyonero! Canyonero!
Whoa, Canyonero! Whoa!
-From The Simpsons-
Looking at the seats, the sad part is about 10% of the people I see in cars nowadays will barely fit in it.
#8
Originally Posted by HereNT
I don't want to see one of those with a garden care sign on the side of it.
what's really sickening is the way the manufacturers say "we're just giving the public what they want". like they'd go out of business because the frustrated public would resort to building these things themselves, in their pole barns, if they couldn't walk to the store (excuse me, drive to the store) and buy one.
#9
floor sleeper

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From: Here and there in the US
Bikes: Raleigh Twenty, Puch 3 speed road conversion, lookin' into a Karate Monkey for a cruiser
The usual question: How do you determine if you're "giving the customer what they want" or "[subtlely] telling the customer what they want"?
#10
Danger is my middle name.

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 998
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From: San Francisco, Ca
Bikes: Can't stand the damn things...
Hey at least the exhaust is routed up. That way you can draft it and not suffocate. Of course the rest of the planet is ****ed, but hey... that's not my problem.
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Joined: Aug 2004
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From: out and on the parkway
Originally Posted by jfmckenna
Can you name the truck with four wheel drive,
Smells like a steak, and seats thirty five?
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Hey, hey!
Twelve yards long, two lanes wide,
Sixty five tons of American pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
She blinds everybody with her super high beams
She's a squirrel-squashin', deer-smackin' drivin' machine
Canyonero! Canyonero! Canyonero!
Whoa, Canyonero! Whoa!
-From The Simpsons-
Smells like a steak, and seats thirty five?
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Well, it goes real slow with the hammer down
It's the country-fried truck endorsed by a clown
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Hey, hey!
Twelve yards long, two lanes wide,
Sixty five tons of American pride!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
Top of the line in utility sports,
Unexplained fires are a matter for the courts!
Canyonero! Canyonero!
She blinds everybody with her super high beams
She's a squirrel-squashin', deer-smackin' drivin' machine
Canyonero! Canyonero! Canyonero!
Whoa, Canyonero! Whoa!
-From The Simpsons-
#12
Originally Posted by robertsdvd
"[subtlely] telling the customer what they want"?
#17
Traffic shark

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From: California
Bikes: 2 fixies, 1 road, 29er in the works.
Originally Posted by lucklust
Hey at least the exhaust is routed up. That way you can draft it and not suffocate. Of course the rest of the planet is ****ed, but hey... that's not my problem.
#18
Beausage is Beautiful

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Posts: 5,504
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From: Saitama, Japan
Bikes: Nabiis Alchemy
Did I ever tell you that I hate people? Because I do. Now they just suck a lot more. I'm pissed at International for going against better judgement and actually making something like this, and the first one I actually see on the street is getting a paint bomb thrown in through the window. ...and then I'm setting fire to it.
People just don't get it. It's like Ford publishing that big magazine ad saying how awesome it is that they just built this new, environmentally-friendly factory when it's still a factory churning out gas-guzzling full-size pickup trucks.
People just don't get it. It's like Ford publishing that big magazine ad saying how awesome it is that they just built this new, environmentally-friendly factory when it's still a factory churning out gas-guzzling full-size pickup trucks.
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A Lost Member

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From: Aiken, SC
Bikes: '03 Felt 35R, ~'88 Basso fixie
though i see it being a big hit in the "hunter/jumper" community where these high end horse barns travel the country with there ten horse trailers
that is the one thing that i will give this ugly thing, it has a nice big engine (which I think it said you could upgrade from the stock 7.6L) and should not have any strain on the engine/trans/axels with ten horses in tow (~12000lbs in horses with a 10000lbs trailer)
that is the one thing that i will give this ugly thing, it has a nice big engine (which I think it said you could upgrade from the stock 7.6L) and should not have any strain on the engine/trans/axels with ten horses in tow (~12000lbs in horses with a 10000lbs trailer)
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Traffic shark

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From: California
Bikes: 2 fixies, 1 road, 29er in the works.
Let people buy and overconsume. We'll run out of oil soon enough, and prices will get so high that these over priced things will litter the streets, un used.
#21
Originally Posted by MKRG
When I see crap like this I understand why so many people hate Americans.
RELAX....they're only making 50 of them a year, more than likely you will never even see one, the sky isn't falling.
There is versions of them already out there by Freightliner that pull huge horse trailers and RV's.
Navistar just made it for marketing purposes, looks like it worked.
Oh and by the way..------------------
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https://www.detnews.com/2004/insiders...b01-286632.htm
Disparaging remarks aside, sport utility sales grow in Europe
By Christine Tierney / The Detroit News
SUVs: Scourge of the continent
PARIS -- On the narrow streets of Paris' old neighborhoods, a mid-size sport utility vehicle like the Lexus RX300 looks massive as it winds its way alongside European compact and subcompact cars.
The sight rankles many people here who have come to view SUVs as a symbol of congestion, pollution and U.S.-style automotive excess.
"You have to wonder why people drive around in SUVs," the deputy mayor of Paris Denis Baupin said recently. "They're dangerous to others and take up too much space."
London Mayor Ken Livingstone has characterized SUV drivers as "complete idiots".
A streak of reverse-snobbery underlies the anti-SUV sentiment. In Stockholm's wealthier suburbs, the vehicles are nick-named "Montessori Jeeps," mocking owners who rarely take the SUVs off-road but use them to ferry their children to and from private schools.
So far, the remarks have not dampened demand. SUVs account for only 5 percent of European vehicle sales, compared with 26 percent of the U.S. market. But SUV sales are growing faster than overall vehicle sales in Europe. This year, SUV sales are up 15 percent, while the overall market has grown only 2 percent.
Now, officials across Europe are weighing a variety of measures, from special taxes to urban bans on vehicles with poor emissions scores, to curb demand for off-road vehicles.
Few would argue against a ban on vehicles in the crowded centers of old towns with narrow roads. Some governments impose higher taxes on autos with big engines.
But some proposals may target SUVs, even though they do not - as a segment - consume more gas or emit more pollutants than some sports cars or upscale sedans.
In Sweden, for instance, the government is weighing a tax on vehicles with high emissions that could add up to $5,000 to the price of a Volvo XC90. But SUV makers want to ensure that other types of vehicles are not exempt so that any measure will be an ecologically-friendly rule and not single out SUVs.
"The issues should be, do you cause congestion, do you have good fuel economy? There are mechanisms to address those," says Ford of Europe sales executive Earl Hesterberg. "Why pick out a certain shape of vehicle?"
It's a big issue for European automakers, which are rushing to fill demand. Volkswagen AG and Porsche AG now sell SUVs. And BMW AG has added the X3, a smaller version of its popular X5. More SUVs are on the way.
Automotive forecaster Global Insight predicts the SUV market in Europe will grow to one million vehicles by 2008, still less than 10 percent of the market.
"When you see these movements - this caricatural no to SUVs - it puts pressure on us to make cars that are more environmentally-friendly than they look and to answer [criticism] with facts," says Carlos Ghosn, CEO of Nissan Motor Co.
Automakers should build more efficient engines to ensure that rising SUV sales do not slow the development of cleaner cars. They should also study crash-compatibility to protect passengers in smaller cars. But European legislators will only be fair if they target emissions and not specific product segments.
You can reach Christine Tierney at (313) 222-1463 or ctierney@detnews.com.
#23
A lot of whiney people on this forum...
If I needed it, I would buy it. Are you going to tow a horse trailer with your bicycle? It's not designed to take to the friggin grocery store ladies, it's designed to work. All of you dunderheads need to think for a few seconds about the massive amount of industrialization required over the last 150 years to give you enough free luxury time to peddle around on your bicycle. Nothing, NOTHING supplies the sheer horsepower necessary for building, digging, moving, and PROGRESSING like sweet sweet fossil fuel. Or then again, maybe we should all still be scratching out a miserable existance in the soil with no free time for advances in medicine, technology, and the human condition. Yeah, we'd all be riding our bicycles a lot then (of course I don't know where we'd be able to ride them without any f%$#ing roads). Oh yeah, then there's the little problem of building, shipping, and selling bicycles without the help of fossil fuel driven transport, that would be a bit of a problem.
God I friggin hate you all...
If I needed it, I would buy it. Are you going to tow a horse trailer with your bicycle? It's not designed to take to the friggin grocery store ladies, it's designed to work. All of you dunderheads need to think for a few seconds about the massive amount of industrialization required over the last 150 years to give you enough free luxury time to peddle around on your bicycle. Nothing, NOTHING supplies the sheer horsepower necessary for building, digging, moving, and PROGRESSING like sweet sweet fossil fuel. Or then again, maybe we should all still be scratching out a miserable existance in the soil with no free time for advances in medicine, technology, and the human condition. Yeah, we'd all be riding our bicycles a lot then (of course I don't know where we'd be able to ride them without any f%$#ing roads). Oh yeah, then there's the little problem of building, shipping, and selling bicycles without the help of fossil fuel driven transport, that would be a bit of a problem.
God I friggin hate you all...
#24
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From: California
Bikes: 2 fixies, 1 road, 29er in the works.
Originally Posted by carpediem
A lot of whiney people on this forum...
If I needed it, I would buy it. Are you going to tow a horse trailer with your bicycle? It's not designed to take to the friggin grocery store ladies, it's designed to work. All of you dunderheads need to think for a few seconds about the massive amount of industrialization required over the last 150 years to give you enough free luxury time to peddle around on your bicycle. Nothing, NOTHING supplies the sheer horsepower necessary for building, digging, moving, and PROGRESSING like sweet sweet fossil fuel. Or then again, maybe we should all still be scratching out a miserable existance in the soil with no free time for advances in medicine, technology, and the human condition. Yeah, we'd all be riding our bicycles a lot then (of course I don't know where we'd be able to ride them without any f%$#ing roads). Oh yeah, then there's the little problem of building, shipping, and selling bicycles without the help of fossil fuel driven transport, that would be a bit of a problem.
God I friggin hate you all...
If I needed it, I would buy it. Are you going to tow a horse trailer with your bicycle? It's not designed to take to the friggin grocery store ladies, it's designed to work. All of you dunderheads need to think for a few seconds about the massive amount of industrialization required over the last 150 years to give you enough free luxury time to peddle around on your bicycle. Nothing, NOTHING supplies the sheer horsepower necessary for building, digging, moving, and PROGRESSING like sweet sweet fossil fuel. Or then again, maybe we should all still be scratching out a miserable existance in the soil with no free time for advances in medicine, technology, and the human condition. Yeah, we'd all be riding our bicycles a lot then (of course I don't know where we'd be able to ride them without any f%$#ing roads). Oh yeah, then there's the little problem of building, shipping, and selling bicycles without the help of fossil fuel driven transport, that would be a bit of a problem.
God I friggin hate you all...
First, most people who buy SUV's don't need them. I know because I use mine and have a good understanding of how many use the little lever on the side that says "4wd".
However, from your rant, you win this:
Troll of the month award!!!






