My Winter Project
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My Winter Project
So I picked up this frame for $150 and plan on building it up this winter, thought I would see how my fellow cyclists would part this up for maximum speed and lightness. And no, I'm not going to sell this and get a "better" bike
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Record pista crank.
Cane Creek 110 TR headset
Nitto lugged 853 stem.
Zip 808
Moots cinch ti seatpost
Selle Italia CX Zero
Cane Creek 110 TR headset
Nitto lugged 853 stem.
Zip 808
Moots cinch ti seatpost
Selle Italia CX Zero
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thanks for being the sane one....
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as i mentioned i want to just black it out with mostly carbon fiber parts and let the chrome frame stand out. But it is nice to become aware of other components that I may not know of, not that I need other peoples ideas. For instance, I didn't know about the 808 wheels, way out of my price range but nice to have learned about them.
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you don't need CF to black out. Actually, CF is not really black and if having the chrome frame standing out is what you want then i'ld go with black alum parts rather than CF. And unless u're racing, CF is a very expensive component to have, more brittle IMO, and a thief magnet if u plan on locking up in Brooklyn. If u're racing, get a better frame.
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wow I hadn't thought of that, thank you capt obvious but aside from those ambiguous items any specific recommendations? I know its just a pista frame nothing special but wanted to set it up as nice as can be. I had wanted to carbon fiber it out and just have the chrome frame stand out.
thanks for being the sane one....
thanks for being the sane one....
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don't door me bro!
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original, i suppose every forum has its trolls
good point, only wanted CF for the weight not necessarily for the color. Not racing just wanted a nice light bike to ride around (not a bike to lock up)
you don't need CF to black out. Actually, CF is not really black and if having the chrome frame standing out is what you want then i'ld go with black alum parts rather than CF. And unless u're racing, CF is a very expensive component to have, more brittle IMO, and a thief magnet if u plan on locking up in Brooklyn. If u're racing, get a better frame.
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i would do what gruppo said. On an additional note, CF isn't necessarily light. U can build an non-carbon wheel under 1500g for under $400, which is lighter than a lot of expensive wheelsets. Use road front hubs and low flanges
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None of the components listed, while flashy, will improve performance. You can find very good stuff that's within a few onces of the weight of those listed and they will look cool and work just fine (Sugino crankset, Cane Creek S-3 headset - and the Ritchey steel HS is almost as light for $20 - Salsa steel stem, any number of 200 gm seatposts - American Classic is a great choice - and a classic Flite saddle). As for performance, put the savings in to the wheels/tires: get King, Phil Wood, or White Industries hubs laced to any number of 400 gm rims (Mavic Open Pro, IRD, Velocity, DT-Swiss, Stan's, etc.) using a 3 or 4 x pattern and 14-17-15 spokes with brass nipples. And don't forget to use high quality tires/tubes. Good luck.
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They are very similar in design and when it comes down to it the only thing to be noticed will be the cosmetics. Phil wood has more options for track hubs. I love my low flanges, Don't care for the look of the high.
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OP - i dont think anyone is taking you seriously because you picked up a frame cheap and are asking about some pretty high end parts. pretty much any carbon fiber part you buy is going to cost at least twice as much as your frame at this point.
if you want serious replys, start by telling us the budget you would like to maintain, thats a good place to start from.
for your information, i was just in the market myslef, you'll be hard pressed to find a phil wood built wheelset for much under $500...
if you want serious replys, start by telling us the budget you would like to maintain, thats a good place to start from.
for your information, i was just in the market myslef, you'll be hard pressed to find a phil wood built wheelset for much under $500...
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I was confused by this as well, but I think what he means is
"A project bike to work on over the course of the winter"
rather than
"A project bike to build in preparation for the winter"
By the way, it is kinda silly to put $2000 worth of components on a $200 frame.
"A project bike to work on over the course of the winter"
rather than
"A project bike to build in preparation for the winter"
By the way, it is kinda silly to put $2000 worth of components on a $200 frame.
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btw - if i only intend to put in 1K worth of components on my frame is that ok? What is the proper component value for frame value ratio? Don't want to be caught out on the road violating some unspoken rule.
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yes, a bike to be built in the winter. as for the $200 frame and $2000 worth of components, I'm from FL where we put thousands of dollars worth of components into frames that are worthless all the time like this ride -----> 
btw - if i only intend to put in 1K worth of components on my frame is that ok? What is the proper component value for frame value ratio? Don't want to be caught out on the road violating some unspoken rule.
btw - if i only intend to put in 1K worth of components on my frame is that ok? What is the proper component value for frame value ratio? Don't want to be caught out on the road violating some unspoken rule.





