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PHLevel 11-26-10 05:13 PM

Bar Position/Bar style
 
Opinions? I flipped these bars upside down and backwards. When sitting on the bike it feels kinda like an old cafe, or drag bike.

http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k1...klr240/050.jpg

seau grateau 11-26-10 05:14 PM

It always looks dumb no matter what.

vw addict 11-26-10 05:20 PM

I like my bullhorns, risers stick to my mtn bikes. And with them flipped like that your wrists won't thank you.

cc700 11-26-10 05:35 PM

from an anatomical perspective, wrists don't like being angled down like that without a significant amount of supenation(thumbs forward, heel back... actually it's more technically a significant reduction in pronation). idea is to use 'townie' 'sparrow' 'mustache' bars with more sweep to them instead of risers if you want a slight drop and wide position.

it looks dumb because it's unhealthy for your joints and no one does it.

also, the saddle is slammed to the top of the seat tube and the frame is a large. methinks it doesn't fit you and no amount of bar swapping will fix this.

the t1 is a nice bike. this makes it look super, super dumb. cafe racer drop bars have way more sweep than those risers.

vw addict 11-26-10 05:46 PM

does that rear wheel have a quick release?

NateRod 11-26-10 06:12 PM

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...00/popcorn.gif

veganeric 11-26-10 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by vw addict (Post 11845949)
does that rear wheel have a quick release?

Looks like it...and there's nothing wrong with that. I guarantee there's way more torque being put on an axle during a climbing attack than any of us could dream of putting on our axles, and they're all using quick releases.

cc700 11-26-10 06:56 PM

those guys are forces of nature.

and torque on axles over the duration of a pedal stroke is different than torque over the duration of the time it takes to stop a tire and put force back on it when initiating a skid at 30mph. not saying most qr skewers can't handle it, just saying there's a larger margin of acceptable error when torquing down a nut then setting a skewer.

didn't mean torque, meant sheer force. you can very easily put too much tension on a skewer or not enough, where it's harder to put too little torque on an axle bolt.

TejanoTrackie 11-26-10 07:15 PM

Lots of technical confusion in this thread. There is no torque on an axle. A track / horizontal dropout requires a tight axle nut / QR skewer to prevent slipping; a vertical dropout on a road bike does not. A closed cam steel QR can easily retain an axle in a horizontal dropout. A skid does not put more shear force on an axle that forward pedalling. The only force on a QR skewer is tension.

vw addict 11-26-10 07:20 PM

thank you for saving me from having to type this /\

Scrodzilla 11-26-10 07:40 PM

That bike is wonky.

vw addict 11-26-10 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 11846345)
That bike is wonky.

***** Tonky

http://images.paraorkut.com/img/arti...esley-1650.jpg

Squirrelli 11-26-10 07:43 PM

Ain't no T1, it's got gears and cable stops, mate.

cc700 11-26-10 07:48 PM

well lookat that.

yeah, **** that bike.

Squirrelli 11-26-10 07:49 PM

+5

veganeric 11-26-10 07:49 PM


Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie (Post 11846262)
Lots of technical confusion in this thread. There is no torque on an axle. A track / horizontal dropout requires a tight axle nut / QR skewer to prevent slipping; a vertical dropout on a road bike does not. A closed cam steel QR can easily retain an axle in a horizontal dropout. A skid does not put more shear force on an axle that forward pedalling. The only force on a QR skewer is tension.

Doh! Spending too much time looking at conversions in this forum made me think of the old forward angled dropouts. Especially embarrassing since I own two bikes with vertical drop outs. I still stand by the general sentiment of my last post, which is that a QR will hold a fixed wheel just fine.

adriano 11-27-10 11:48 AM

adrianos bicycle fit parameters:

head tube*0.786=stem length
height*0.371=cockpit=stem+top tube
height*0.057=maximum bar drop

jeffdeegan 11-27-10 03:46 PM

why not just flip your stem down or take some risers out and leave you handlebars normal? I guess this is more about aesthetics than the actual bar height though...and in that case, I think it makes a pretty nice looking bike look stupid.

Squirrelli 11-27-10 03:50 PM

^ Wait...wouldn't that make sense and be practical?

We don't want that here.

Panda Bear 11-27-10 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 11846345)
That bike is wonky.

Way wonky. And pedalless to boot. :(

TejanoTrackie 11-27-10 06:05 PM

Chainless and brakeless too......yeeeeehaaaaaa!

vw addict 11-27-10 06:08 PM

you forgot about the quick release...

Mr. Embrey 11-27-10 06:22 PM


Originally Posted by vw addict (Post 11849755)
you forgot about the quick release...

That would make it nutless too.

chowmeen 11-28-10 02:04 AM

risers are called risers for a reason.

awesomejack 11-28-10 02:10 AM


Originally Posted by PHLevel (Post 11845803)
I flipped these bars upside down and backwards

Otherwise known as rotating 180 degrees

NateRod 11-28-10 02:49 AM


Originally Posted by Vixtor (Post 11849160)
^ Wait...wouldn't that make sense and be practical?

We don't want that here.

I almost want to sig this... but I'm feeling too drunk and lazy to do that right now.

PHLevel 11-29-10 09:37 PM

Lol at this whole thread. This isn't a fixie/SS, but i think you guys already figured that out.

I took all the stock components off, and was just messing around while I am waiting on my dura ace 7900 group.

The bars are off my DH bike, and are back on it now. Also I don't ride the bike with my seat that low. the frame is a trek 1.2 that i've riden for around 2 years, so i figured it was time to upgrade parts.

The frame is a 56cm, and i'm 5' 11" so it suits me just fine.

xkillemallx16 11-29-10 09:48 PM

da 7900 on a 1.2? seems more like a madone kinda upgrade to me.

PHLevel 11-29-10 11:57 PM

Yeah, I know it kinda seems like over kill for such a bike, but the bike has sentimental value.

I know i should have probably just upgraded to something like an S-works, Madone, etc as under hard acceleration the rear feels a bit jello-ish. i'd imagine carbon is quite a different ride.


P.S.
Being that i'm 180lbs fully clothed i don't really think my weight has anything to do with the jello-ish feel i'm reffering to, then again maybe it does?


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