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Old 11-26-10 | 05:13 PM
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Opinions? I flipped these bars upside down and backwards. When sitting on the bike it feels kinda like an old cafe, or drag bike.

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Old 11-26-10 | 05:14 PM
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It always looks dumb no matter what.
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Old 11-26-10 | 05:20 PM
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I like my bullhorns, risers stick to my mtn bikes. And with them flipped like that your wrists won't thank you.
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Old 11-26-10 | 05:35 PM
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from an anatomical perspective, wrists don't like being angled down like that without a significant amount of supenation(thumbs forward, heel back... actually it's more technically a significant reduction in pronation). idea is to use 'townie' 'sparrow' 'mustache' bars with more sweep to them instead of risers if you want a slight drop and wide position.

it looks dumb because it's unhealthy for your joints and no one does it.

also, the saddle is slammed to the top of the seat tube and the frame is a large. methinks it doesn't fit you and no amount of bar swapping will fix this.

the t1 is a nice bike. this makes it look super, super dumb. cafe racer drop bars have way more sweep than those risers.

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Old 11-26-10 | 05:46 PM
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does that rear wheel have a quick release?
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Old 11-26-10 | 06:12 PM
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Old 11-26-10 | 06:34 PM
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does that rear wheel have a quick release?
Looks like it...and there's nothing wrong with that. I guarantee there's way more torque being put on an axle during a climbing attack than any of us could dream of putting on our axles, and they're all using quick releases.
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Old 11-26-10 | 06:56 PM
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those guys are forces of nature.

and torque on axles over the duration of a pedal stroke is different than torque over the duration of the time it takes to stop a tire and put force back on it when initiating a skid at 30mph. not saying most qr skewers can't handle it, just saying there's a larger margin of acceptable error when torquing down a nut then setting a skewer.

didn't mean torque, meant sheer force. you can very easily put too much tension on a skewer or not enough, where it's harder to put too little torque on an axle bolt.

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Lots of technical confusion in this thread. There is no torque on an axle. A track / horizontal dropout requires a tight axle nut / QR skewer to prevent slipping; a vertical dropout on a road bike does not. A closed cam steel QR can easily retain an axle in a horizontal dropout. A skid does not put more shear force on an axle that forward pedalling. The only force on a QR skewer is tension.
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That bike is wonky.
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Old 11-26-10 | 07:43 PM
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Ain't no T1, it's got gears and cable stops, mate.
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Old 11-26-10 | 07:48 PM
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well lookat that.

yeah, **** that bike.
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Originally Posted by TejanoTrackie
Lots of technical confusion in this thread. There is no torque on an axle. A track / horizontal dropout requires a tight axle nut / QR skewer to prevent slipping; a vertical dropout on a road bike does not. A closed cam steel QR can easily retain an axle in a horizontal dropout. A skid does not put more shear force on an axle that forward pedalling. The only force on a QR skewer is tension.
Doh! Spending too much time looking at conversions in this forum made me think of the old forward angled dropouts. Especially embarrassing since I own two bikes with vertical drop outs. I still stand by the general sentiment of my last post, which is that a QR will hold a fixed wheel just fine.
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Old 11-27-10 | 11:48 AM
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adrianos bicycle fit parameters:

head tube*0.786=stem length
height*0.371=cockpit=stem+top tube
height*0.057=maximum bar drop
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why not just flip your stem down or take some risers out and leave you handlebars normal? I guess this is more about aesthetics than the actual bar height though...and in that case, I think it makes a pretty nice looking bike look stupid.
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Old 11-27-10 | 03:50 PM
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^ Wait...wouldn't that make sense and be practical?

We don't want that here.
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That bike is wonky.
Way wonky. And pedalless to boot.
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Old 11-27-10 | 06:08 PM
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you forgot about the quick release...
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Old 11-27-10 | 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by vw addict
you forgot about the quick release...
That would make it nutless too.
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risers are called risers for a reason.
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Old 11-28-10 | 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by PHLevel
I flipped these bars upside down and backwards
Otherwise known as rotating 180 degrees
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