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Hills & Single Speed bikes!
Hello,
I am curious as why anyone would consider or enjoy a single speed bike. I know, having a single speed has many advantages over geared bikes, but how do you cope with hilly terrains? Or is it that most of you live in flat areas? I have a 7 speed utility bike, which sometimes makes me wish the bike had more lower gears to cope with some of the hills. I live in Maryland, which is relatively hilly, but not really as bad as many other hilly areas (eg PA). Anyhoo...are you all expert bikers? Strong legs? Or what is it you enjoy so much about single speed bikes? Please share your opinion. Thank you |
Where in MD do you live? If you are close you are welcome to come ride my bike (singlespeed or as a fixed gear) then you'll understand.
Edit: to answer your question- you just keep pedaling to get up and over the hills. It's a good workout but very do-able even by people with only a moderate level of fitness. |
How do I cope?
I don't cope man, I just do it, they're hills, deal with it. If not, get a car. |
Well, you see, here on SSFG, we don't actually ride bikes. We just put them together and use them for mock photoshoots.
Occasionally, take them out and walk them to the local cafe. |
Yeah, the only reason I built a fixed gear was for appearances.
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Strength, stamina, and endurance.
All I needed when I moved over here to hilly san diego was a a lower gear ratio swap to the drive train. |
hills are relatively easy, you push yourself up and youre at the top. Fixed gears have an advantage over single speed because you already have a forward momentum. but then again I can only ride for 20 minutes then I need a smoke break. hipzen it up bro
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Originally Posted by CamelDane
(Post 12225074)
but then again I can only ride for 20 minutes then I need a smoke break. hipzen it up bro
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yeah the whole hill thing worried me when I convereted my old ten speed. now whenever I see a hill I just hit the drops and accelerate as much as I can so I hit it at max speed then push through and once I start slowing down I'll stand and push some more and if the hill is steep enough I guess you have to start zig zaggin or walk the rest. I live in LA though, where the hills are all short and sweet cuz once you make it up theres a nice down hill to bomb :D
this is all with a 46:17 gear ratio. if thats high or low idk. someone tell me haha. no sarcasm |
Originally Posted by sonnetg
(Post 12224761)
I am curious as why anyone would consider or enjoy a single speed bike.
It's a different mindset when riding a single speed. You have two gears: sitting in the saddle and standing on the pedals. You learn to use momentum to help you get up the hills, and when momentum is gone you learn the importantance of good balance as you "walk" up the hill like working out on a stair stepper. You learn to coast down the other side and say "Weeeeeeee!" because you top out your cadence pretty quickly. |
Originally Posted by bikessuck
(Post 12225182)
this is all with a 46:17 gear ratio. if thats high or low idk. someone tell me haha. no sarcasm
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Originally Posted by rustybrown
(Post 12225021)
Well, you see, here on SSFG, we don't actually ride bikes. We just put them together and use them for mock photoshoots.
Occasionally, take them out and walk them to the local cafe. You just described me...lol. I sometimes wished all my bikes were dinted and scratched up and fugly... :lol: |
Originally Posted by HandsomeRyan
(Post 12225003)
Where in MD do you live? If you are close you are welcome to come ride my bike (singlespeed or as a fixed gear) then you'll understand.
Edit: to answer your question- you just keep pedaling to get up and over the hills. It's a good workout but very do-able even by people with only a moderate level of fitness. Hey, Thanks so much for the offer. I normally use my bike on 5th gear (my 7 speed), but occasionally, I need to use 2nd or 3rd gear for uphill climb. I did have some bad experience with my muscle cramping up while climbing uphill. I guess I need to practice a lot more (i did try gatorade and bananas, but that does help much with hills :). I live in Towson, MD. I often ride on the NCR all the way to New Freedom, PA. It was difficult at first, but now it's very easy. The reason I was asking, I may convert a bike to single speed cause I am tired of rear derailleurs, and I already have two multi-speed bikes. I could use a single speed for working out my leg muscles and just as a spare bike. Cheers |
Originally Posted by Doohickie
(Post 12225197)
Try it, then come back and talk. That's the best advice I can give.
It's a different mindset when riding a single speed. You have two gears: sitting in the saddle and standing on the pedals. You learn to use momentum to help you get up the hills, and when momentum is gone you learn the importantance of good balance as you "walk" up the hill like working out on a stair stepper. You learn to coast down the other side and say "Weeeeeeee!" because you top out your cadence pretty quickly. There were times when i went 2 m/hr uphill with a geared bike, I guess it's better to just get off the bike and push if that is the case. I will be faster that way :-) |
hills/climbing have become one of my favorite parts of riding fixed. Anything over a moderate climb and I'm in trouble. But other then that i'm getting into excellent shape. Just recently I beat someone in pretty decent shape up a hill, he was riding a road bike, I was on my 48/17 fixed.
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Being a newbie to ridding fixed, all I can say is there is different feel to the ride. Meaning that my bike seems to run easier due to the lack of resistance of the derailer and extra chain. Of course I am running a mild 42/18 which some here will call me a wuss for, but I like it and can handle the hills. So I don't go as fast as a higher ratio, but for all around town, it works good for me. Before I decided on what I wanted, I did some research and found 2 of the guys at the local shop who run the same gearing.
Tom |
48x16 up hill, both ways everyday.
That was when I lived in Portland; I need a lower ratio before my knees explode. |
Originally Posted by avner
(Post 12225491)
hills/climbing have become one of my favorite parts of riding fixed.
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48x17 fixed here... I think you need to try it and then you will understand... The tough part is not going UP the hill, it's going down the other side (on the fixed gear).
train safe- |
1. stand up and pedal
2. dismount and walk |
Originally Posted by streetdude
(Post 12225622)
There's probably a narcissistic aspect to that feeling, i.e. "OMG I'm soooo strong!" But yeah, feels good man.
I recently tried climbing a hill on a friends road bike and I failed miserably. he had down tube shifters though, kinda hard to use IMO. |
Originally Posted by buelito
(Post 12225798)
The tough part is not going UP the hill, it's going down the other side (on the fixed gear).
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Originally Posted by macnab
(Post 12225894)
1. stand up and pedal
2. dismount and walk |
Diamond quads. Skip iron quads. Just buy your self some diamond quads and you'll be soooo strong.
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This is super awesome, I wish I had one. Richmond has some very long climbs...
http://www.rivbike.com/products/show...eewheel/13-082 |
Originally Posted by sonnetg
(Post 12226069)
Am i missing something? Why would gliding down be tough.
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Originally Posted by dookie
(Post 12226696)
you asked about single-speed, implying freewheel. in which case, yes, going down is easy. many others have been speaking fixed gear, in which case going down is different. you must pedal. 150rpm+ is challenging and gravity is *not* your friend.
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Originally Posted by Doohickie
(Post 12225197)
You have two gears: sitting in the saddle and standing on the pedals. You learn to use momentum to help you get up the hills, and when momentum is gone you learn the importantance of good balance as you "walk" up the hill like working out on a stair stepper.
momentum, momentum, momentum. do *not* get behind the gear. on the slopes: hold a high cadence and spin the turbine; on the steeps: a brief out-of-saddle lung-coughing interval is way better than an extended 50rpm grind. go hard and rest at the top. |
"I still feel that variable gears are only for people over forty-five. Isn't it better to triumph by the strength of your muscles than by the artifice of a derailer?
I AM A MAN |
Originally Posted by dookie
(Post 12226696)
you asked about single-speed, implying freewheel. in which case, yes, going down is easy. many others have been speaking fixed gear, in which case going down is different. you must pedal. 150rpm+ is challenging and gravity is *not* your friend.
Interesting. I had no idea was Fixed gear really meant.. Technically, you can reverse pedal with fixed gear? Wow....that's something I just learned today. Why would anyone want fixed gears? beats...me. It would be scary going 40 mile and hour with fixed gear... :eek: |
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