Right now I have a set of vittoria zaphiro pros on my fixed. They have about 4-500 miles on them and have some rips in the sidewalls and I even have a patch that wore through the rubber to some of the belting from a single skidstop(I only skid in an emergency stop situation, this one some ******* ran a stopsign right in front of me) These are also colored tires and both are splitting where the two colors meet along the entire sidewall.

I like the low rolling resistance they've given me on the 23c size, but I'd like a tire that wont be so worn out after so few miles.

Right now I'm looking at these: https://www.amazon.com/Michelin-Orium...7821459&sr=1-9

I'm looking to spend less than 40 bucks per tire(and cheaper is better) so is there something else out there that has low rolling resistance, but can survive a little abuse?

I had a set of black & white Rubinos that also started to split where the colors joined. Never again.

Oriums are decent tires and have pretty strong sidewalls but they definitely won't hold up to a lot of skidding.

For road tires with Vittoria, you have to go more towards the really high end for a tire that won't fail prematurely.

For a good road tire, GP4000, Michelin Krylion Carbon.

Panaracer T-Serv FTW.

which series/models would you suggest?

Rubinos, likely.

lower end michelins aren't very good, IMO. The T-Servs are a good tire if you want something durable. I don't think they come in 23, but i might be wrong.

Gatorskins are my go-to tire for FG...there is a reason everyone loves them. Can get them cheap off probikekit.com, though my last shipment from them took a month and a half to get here

Continental Grand Prix 4000, Continental Grand Prix 4 seasons, Michelin Krylion Carbon, Panaracer T-servs(had forgot about these.)

+1 although I've been recently auditioning GP 4000's on my pcept.

I like gatorskins for pure durability. Also good are the Conti top tourings, now top contact. A little slower, a lot grippier. Smallest size is a 28 I think. For road and some dirt road use as well as around town I've been using a top touring front gatorskin rear. Works well.

For a fast ride on good roads I like the old Michelin Pro 2 race, but they don't make them anymore and my last set is almost done. The Pro3 race that replaced them is grippy and light but super soft and flats easily. The Michelin Krylion Carbons are pretty nice.

A lot of people around here like Panaracer T-Servs for dirt roads in 32 or 35mm. I've used Paselas and they're good though I've had some sidewall failures a bit premature IMO. T-Servs have thicker sidewalls though.

Basically lots of good options out there but there are always compromises.

I use higher than the rubinos in the spring/summer(Open Corsa Evo CX's).

I threw up a service course set that I used for a season on my roadie on my vigorelli and skids ate them like a chubby boy eating nutella. The rolling resistance is great nonetheless, you can run one in front if you won't mind they're easier to puncture.

Thanks guys, looks like I'm going to go with the gatorskins.

+1 for Krylion.

Strong ass mother****ing tires. In my opinion, they are better than Gatorskin.

How does the rolling resistance of these compare with gskins?

anybody here rode fyxations? (looking at some 28's)

Pretty much the same as the gatorskins.

Hmm what about the sidewall?

I feel like Krylions grip WAY better in the wet than Gatorskins, cornering feels great with them, stronger side-wall than Gatorskins. Puncture protection is about the same and I have yet to have a puncture on my Krylion but have dig bunch of glass, pebbles, wires out of the tire but didn't go through.

That's nothing new... I used to spend my time on the subway train picking out the road crud that penetrated my g skins with a mechanical pencil tip

I've got a set of Panaracer Ribmos and, while they aren't the lightest tire, they are super durable.

I use krylions on my road bike...they're great. I don't use them on FG b/c of skidding, though

If you like Gatorskins, you'll like Conti 4 Seasons and Panaracer T-Serv's even better.

Panaracer probably provides the most tire for the money.

If you don't mind spending a little more, nothing compares to Conti Top Contact Wire Bead 28mm.

No Randonneur fans?
The wire version is a bit of a beast at 580g for 700x32 but not only performs well can handle a decent amount of skidding
The kevlar(Pro) version clocks in at 420g with a better ride but tolerates the skids with less

rubino/ rando or vredestein ricorso or gators