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mestizoracer310 02-22-11 10:39 PM

Swappin' forks on my SE Draft
 
I really, really want to run a gold Dia Compe brake to match my Shot lever...and it's only available in very short reach. The OE forks my Draft came with pretty much only lets me run about 57mm... They're 45mm in rake (if my measurement is correct)..and I've found Pake straight legs that are 38mm. Would the handling be too squirrely? What would be a safer change to go with..40? I'm guessing going above 45 would be dumb on a track frame...?

Squirrelli 02-22-11 11:58 PM

IRO Mark V fork has a 43mm rake but they are out of stock...

Assuming your new fork will be slightly shorter than your new fork by...let say...15mm, that 15mm decrease in length will drop the head tube angle by ~1 degree or less. Steeper head tube angle will affect how your bike will handle with your new fork. Running slightly larger tires will change the trail of your bike. The less the rake, the more the trail, the more the trail, the more stable it is. Handling might become squirrely if trail is lessen.

BUT

Does any of those matter to you?
Probably not, because you might not be able to tell your fork is different from your old one.

xkillemallx16 02-23-11 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Vixtor (Post 12266464)
Assuming your new fork will be slightly shorter than your new fork by...let say...15mm, that 15mm decrease in length will drop the head tube angle by ~1 degree or less. Steeper head tube angle will affect how your bike will handle with your new fork. Running slightly larger tires will change the trail of your bike. The less the rake, the more the trail, the more the trail, the more stable it is. Handling might become squirrely if trail is lessen.

not doubting your logic here, but can you explain more? so if you get a fork with a lower axle to crown, your head angle steepens?

http://yojimg.net/bike/web_tools/trailcalc.php

this will help alot. dial in the numbers, desireable trail ranges from 50mm-70mm. anything below or over that will not handle well.

Squirrelli 02-23-11 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by xkillemallx16 (Post 12266486)
not doubting your logic here, but can you explain more? so if you get a fork with a lower axle to crown, your head angle steepens?

Yes, but it will take more than -20mm to increase the head tube angle by more than a degree.

More to read over at Sheldon Brown. :D

evilcryalotmore 02-23-11 12:40 AM

Ouch, You just got Brownd up on.

Scrodzilla 02-23-11 07:28 AM

hahaha

A one-way ticket to Brown Town.

zacked 02-23-11 09:35 AM

It is absolutely not worth changing forks to run a slightly shorter reach brake. Get over it, or get a different brake anodized.

markaitch 02-23-11 10:32 AM

guess this is as good a place as any to bust my cherry...

dia-compe brs-101 43-57mm reach...available in gold

using one (in black) on the front of an se pk ripper

good luck & have fun

mestizoracer310 02-23-11 10:37 AM

Markaitch, where can I find that one? That's the reach I need... And just got confirmation from SE bikes...I measured correctly. My rake is 45mm.

mestizoracer310 02-23-11 10:39 AM

And I guess I'll leave the forks unless they bend or break. Then hopefully I'll get a carbon fiber set.

chas58 02-23-11 12:14 PM

If your rake is 45mm, you'll be fine with something in the range of 40-50mm (i.e. +/- 5mm) on a street bike. I doubt you'll notice the difference (as long as you don't reduce it enough to hit the frame with the tire).

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Originally Posted by mestizoracer310 (Post 12267960)
Markaitch, where can I find that one? That's the reach I need... And just got confirmation from SE bikes...I measured correctly. My rake is 45mm.


mestizoracer310 02-23-11 10:55 PM

Just thought of this, I'll just get the keirin mounted brake, that just clamp onto the fork blades. Sure, it's a bit more expensive than just swapping a caliper but far cheaper than swapping forks AND the brake...

Squirrelli 02-23-11 11:05 PM

Is this the gold you want?

You could mount Keirin brake on the front but it seems really dramatic for a drilled fork.

mestizoracer310 02-24-11 12:11 AM

Well, at first but then I decided if I'm going gold calipers, I'd prefer that at least the lever and caliper are the same hue of gold.

markaitch 02-24-11 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mestizoracer310 (Post 12267960)
Markaitch, where can I find that one? That's the reach I need... And just got confirmation from SE bikes...I measured correctly. My rake is 45mm.

got my black one from my lbs...can't remember whether they ordered it from j&b or qbp.

if your'e that concerned about matching your lever, keep in mind colored items from same maker can vary due to different dye lots.

anyway, if you must order online & can't find it elsewhere, try these:
http://www.wiggle.co.uk/dia-compe-br...aliper-brakes/
http://www.tokyofixedgear.com/shopexd.asp?id=624

(edit) btw...how you like that gran compe shot lever? i had one & did not care for it at all...

HandsomeRyan 02-24-11 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by mestizoracer310 (Post 12267974)
And I guess I'll leave the forks unless they bend or break. Then hopefully I'll get a carbon fiber set.

If whatever you do while riding breaks your steel fork, you best upgrade your dental insurance before you put on a carbon fork.

Also:

Run whatever brake you want...
http://www.abroeurope.com/images/18k...pray-Paint.jpg

MrJay 02-24-11 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mestizoracer310 (Post 12271867)
I'd prefer that at least the lever and caliper are the same hue of gold.


lol...yeah.

Mixing 14kt and 18kt is a total faux pas.

Build your own 02-24-11 03:02 PM

Origin 8 makes long reach calipers in colors incl. gold.


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