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My take on going clipless

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Old 04-23-11 | 02:51 PM
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I'm mostly interested in somewhat MTN shoes. I'm mostly a commuter so I want to be able to walk in them. I've been waiting for the Shimano M086's to go on sale in my size somewhere, but I'm open to anything. Thanks
Pricepoint has great pedal+shoe combo's...but if you want shoes, nashbar has a good selection. Also try LBS for sales. I got mine so cheap because I am an REI member and getting shoes is what I used my dividend on.
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Old 04-23-11 | 08:31 PM
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I wanted to try out a Clipless setup because I love the way straps feel when I can get them tight, but every set of shoes is different and its quite difficult to get the straps on quick and easily.

I am not much of a fan of the Velcro straps, but I do love the clincher. Definitely recommended for people who want a very snug fit. I set the tension on the pedals to the easiest. After about a mile I felt the desire to tighten them up, but resisted as I didn't have many stops and wanted to make sure I felt comfortable un-clipping. Which by the way is very easy. Squirrelli suggested I go with a single release instead of the multi so I wouldn't get so confused with the different exit points, and I have to agree.
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Old 04-23-11 | 08:47 PM
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Originally Posted by cc700
pretty sure my feet would have hurt if not for my clipless on saturday's 68 mile ride.

however, brakeless is kind of stupid and i've nearly died several times from unclipping partways down a hill.
doin it wrong. theres NO benefit to clips/straps over clipless.
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Old 04-23-11 | 08:48 PM
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op fix your saddle angle, on all of your bikes
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Old 04-23-11 | 09:51 PM
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op fix your saddle angle, on all of your bikes
No thanks, I'm quite comfortable with all of my saddle's angles on all of my bikes.
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Old 04-23-11 | 10:44 PM
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doin it wrong. theres NO benefit to clips/straps over clipless.
Well that's a bit of an exaggeration. You can wear shoes without cleats and still have foot retention. That sounds like a benefit to me...

I think if I make the switch to clipless (MTB or road), I'll still carry my Vans with me so I can switch out when I go to class.
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Old 04-23-11 | 10:54 PM
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no reason you cant walk in spd shoes. hell, ive walked 10 miles in my spd shoes in my last 2 bike rides.

and if you think about it, you have 25% efficiency with platforms, 50% with clips/straps and 100% with clipless.
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Old 04-23-11 | 11:24 PM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
you have 25% efficiency with platforms, 50% with clips/straps and 100% with clipless.
Where did you pull these numbers from? I can do 20mph easy with clips/straps with my current setup. So if I go clipless I will be doing 40mph no problem??? Why didnt anyone tell me this before???
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Old 04-23-11 | 11:29 PM
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just think about it.
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Old 04-23-11 | 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
no reason you cant walk in spd shoes. hell, ive walked 10 miles in my spd shoes in my last 2 bike rides.

and if you think about it, you have 25% efficiency with platforms, 50% with clips/straps and 100% with clipless.
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Where did you pull these numbers from? I can do 20mph easy with clips/straps with my current setup. So if I go clipless I will be doing 40mph no problem??? Why didnt anyone tell me this before???
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On the bike, clips and straps have nothing on clipless; off the bike, regular shoes barely beat MTB shoes but definitely beat road shoes.

wearing bike shoes to class is b****ing because everybody is like 'wow check out that hardcore fixie bro'.
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Old 04-23-11 | 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by MuppetMower
Where did you pull these numbers from? I can do 20mph easy with clips/straps with my current setup. So if I go clipless I will be doing 40mph no problem??? Why didnt anyone tell me this before???
The idea is that with platforms you only exert force on the pedals with the downstroke, or ~25% of the total cycle. With clips you exert it on the downstroke and the upstroke (50%), and clipless you can apply force throughout the entire stroke cycle.

Of course it's an oversimplification. See here for platforms vs clips, and here for clips vs clipless, if you're at a university.
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Old 04-24-11 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by solbrothers
no reason you cant walk in spd shoes.
Other than the fact that most SPD shoes (even the "fashionable" ones) are pretty ugly and look like clown shoes...

Of course that's entirely a matter of opinion.
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Old 04-24-11 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Squirrelli
wearing bike shoes to class is b****ing because everybody is like 'wow check out that hardcore fixie bro'.
Normally I would think you're joking but I have actually received this comment when I had my SPD-SL on the fixed gear
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Old 04-24-11 | 10:34 AM
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congrats on buying pedals and shoes, great job. now you have the ability to be more efficient*... about those risers...


*going clipless is only half the battle, now you need to consciously work on your pedal stroke. lower your ratio and practice spinning circles.
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Old 04-24-11 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by ScottRock
Of course it's an oversimplification. See here for platforms vs clips...
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Old 04-24-11 | 10:50 AM
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congrats on buying pedals and shoes, great job. now you have the ability to be more efficient*... about those risers...


*going clipless is only half the battle, now you need to consciously work on your pedal stroke. lower your ratio and practice spinning circles.
Actually, the Clipless pedals were for the Leader that I built up... I just wanted to try it out on the Prez because I got the pedals before I completed the Road bike. . . They are on the 722 now, and the Prez has its origin8 pedals back on it.



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