i'm looking for a steel track frame around $600, preferably less, for fast city riding. i'm looking at masi speciale sprint, traitor ringleader, soma rush, cinelli gazzetta, or anything else. i would really like something that was lugged with a threadless 1 1/8 headset, if anyone knows of any frames. anyway, which frame is superior in this price range?

Leader 722 comes to mind as another option.

out of all of those, i have an older soma rush. it's a great steel frame. it sometimes feels a little a faster than some of my aluminum frames, but i attribute that to the absorbing power of steel in general. i keep it at my parent's place in florida, so i don't get to ride it too much. however, i do fantasize about them shipping it up to me here in NY. it is a really nice ride, to say the least...

Bikeisland has a couple of lugged steel options, but both are 1" (one is threaded, one is threadless):

https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1876

https://bikeisland.com/cgi-bin/BKTK_S...ls&ProdID=1799

The Leader 722TS is sweet as well, but it's not lugged.

i have a gazzetta and its a great frame, but you could probably do better for less. i'm working on a LeveL build that's coming in way lower than what i paid for my Cinelli.

Wabi Special

Oh yea, good call... though the frameset is just a bit more than the OP's budget and he said "preferably less".

well you can't have your cake and eat it too....

I vote for the traitor.

My vote goes to the Gazzetta. It's my dream steel track frame.

Not lugged, but USA handmade quality torch welded. FBM Sword. My frame was around $600.

said it before, say it again. My friend has one, for the price I'm not impressed. It's a nice quality steel frame, its fairly light (competes with my sputnik but it has a much nicer setup) and I don't think i'd pay a dime over 400 for the frame set, maybe 400.04.

https://store.citygrounds.com/store/p...Frameset-Grey/

600.00 ? geez toss in another hundred and get a njs?

https://store.citygrounds.com/store/p...Frameset-Blue/

800.00?

I personally think , wait for what you want used.

I am in the same boat as you.

But, stay away from something like this, looks completely thrashed.

https://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-Makino-Evol...item3f095828f0

That's another $200 brah, but thanks for playing.

I've seen NJS frames all day long going for 700 (used) .. just depends. BRAH, try again, thanks for palying

the one you linked to was $800, congrats to your lack of understanding. And what does NJS get you anyway? The answer is nothing, oh butz the street cred.....the street cred.

Why does njs matter so much around here? Its a bike. Ride it!

You're essentially paying for the legendary Cinelli name... which I'm more than willing to do haha

think it was more like 500, re-read.

Street cred doesn't mean ****, honestly. for a well built, (not from taiwan/china) frame
lugged usually cost around 500 used, no matter the maker, it's just that njs, has a wide variety of frames on the market at any giving time, go ahead choose your color.
size could be an issue though.

I'm just saying, if you are about to burn 600 bucks, get something you might want to keep around for a while.

Milwaukee Cream City (not lugged, but $650, & tigged at Waterford factory)

This.

spicer $399

Fuji Track Pro $450 at city grounds.

yeah... i'm leaning towards the wabi special for sure. it looks awesome, but am thinking the 73 st will be slack coming from the 75.5 on a bianchi pista. what do you guys think, will 2 degrees matter? will i lose that track bike feel that i dearly love so much!!!???!!! NOOOOO!!! track bikes i love you!