I'm just curious why people who want to build a "budget bike" don't buy a bike from BikesDirect (Kilo TT, Dawes SST, etc.) and strip it of the components and then sell the frame? That way you would have a complete group of components for $200-300. Then you could buy your own frame & fork and then build it up yourself.

So, is this a stupid idea? I'm considering doing it myself. I suppose you wouldn't get your top choice on all the components but for a budget build I think this is the way to go. Thoughts?

You wont be able to make much money off the frame, its a lot of work, Bikes Direct uses random parts of odd sizes so it will be hard to find a frame to fit them all on, the frame is probably the best part of a Kilo.

People make fun of other people for having cheap components on an expensive frame.

The problem is that so many of the stock components on those bikes are pretty junky anyway. I found myself replacing many of the components on my Kilo WT and Moto Messenger, such that they ended costing just as much as a higher end bike like a All-City Big Block, where I would not expect to change a lot of parts. About the only part on the Kilo TT that is worth keeping is the frameset itself.

I think bikeisland sells a kilo kit with everything but the frame, but its nearly the price of a full kilo. Buying the ugliest color scratch and dent bike from BI to get components is probably a decent technique also.

I see. The combination of the amount of work it takes and the junk components just doesn't add up. Banhammer engaged.

Best part of the Kilo is the frame and front and rear brakes. I have changed the pedals, toe cages, straps, handlebars, saddle, chainring and added a cog. The brakes are pretty exceptional mfor feel and bite. I am happy but looking back, an All City or Wabi fixed is a superior overall bike.

I would do it to CL bikes for nice parts but not a cheapo BD bike for cheapo parts.

I just realized the major question is this: where can I find an aluminum complete SS/FG bike for cheap? (under $500 dollars or so)

Dawes SST AL for $369 >>> https://www.bikesdirect.com/products/..._al_carb_x.htm

a better question is why do you have a negative rise stem and high rise bar on your trek....

It's actually a 0 degree rise stem and the bars work for me...

Did you just wake up or something?

If you have a problem with the way his bike looks, this really isn't the thread for it. Kind of uncalled for, don't you think?

This.