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#5976
Still kicking.


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From: Annandale, New Jersey
Bikes: Bike Count: Rising.
Starting to think about a new frame to replace the 930. Suggestions? Kind of looking at a Pake Rum Runner.
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#5977
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Scrod, I have a Surly Ultra New Hub with Velocity Synergy rim. When I tighten the axle bolts (or put in a skewer) the hub goes from silky smooth to binding.
This is my first sealed bearing hub. Shouldn't the compression forces that clamp the hub axle in place be isolated from the sealed bearing as they essentially are in a cone and cup bearing?
How can I fix this?
Thanks
This is my first sealed bearing hub. Shouldn't the compression forces that clamp the hub axle in place be isolated from the sealed bearing as they essentially are in a cone and cup bearing?
How can I fix this?
Thanks
#5978
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Scrod, I have a Surly Ultra New Hub with Velocity Synergy rim. When I tighten the axle bolts (or put in a skewer) the hub goes from silky smooth to binding.
This is my first sealed bearing hub. Shouldn't the compression forces that clamp the hub axle in place be isolated from the sealed bearing as they essentially are in a cone and cup bearing?
How can I fix this?
Thanks
This is my first sealed bearing hub. Shouldn't the compression forces that clamp the hub axle in place be isolated from the sealed bearing as they essentially are in a cone and cup bearing?
How can I fix this?
Thanks
Surly hubs are known to be extremely problematic. They supposedly fixed issues with the load placed on the bearings when the wheel is installed but I've seen a few that make me believe otherwise.
#5979
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
What's your budget?
#5980
Goes to 11.

Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 2,548
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From: Wichita, KS, USA
Bikes: 2015 Soma Double Cross
I wish it had water bottle bosses, but I guess that could be fixed easily enough.
#5981
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
True. They're easy to install by someone who knows what they're doing with a drill and rivet gun.
#5982
Goes to 11.

Joined: Oct 2010
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From: Wichita, KS, USA
Bikes: 2015 Soma Double Cross
*tink tink tink* aw ****
#5983
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Joined: Aug 2012
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Thanks
#5984
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Why not just space the hub to 127mm?
#5986
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
Posts: 26,053
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
No. I'm talking about getting any 120mm hub and adding 3.5mm worth of axle spacers to each side.
#5988
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Joined: Jul 2012
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From: San Jose, CA
Bikes: Jamis Sputnik, Leader 722 Heritage Edition, Brompton, Bianchi Via Nirone, Robinson SST, Diamondback Sorrento
Scrod, is a good headset supposed to move with less resistance and faster? My roadbike has an FSA headset and I can't even ride without arms because it becomes really twitchy, even with a 110mm stem. My stock headset on my fixed on the other hand, doesn't have this "problem."
#5989
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Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
It's most likely just a tiny bit too loose.
#5991
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From: Annandale, New Jersey
Bikes: Bike Count: Rising.
I thought about a soma rush, but am not feeling the idea of a white frame, and just no on a steamroller. Budget is not that much of a priority, just want to keep it steel, but having a 1-1/8th headset.
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#5992
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From: Wichita, KS, USA
Bikes: 2015 Soma Double Cross
#5994
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Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
#5995
#5996
Just smang it.
Joined: Feb 2011
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From: Bellingham
Bikes: Felt F1X, Kilo WT, Dawes Deadeye
Scrod the master wheelbuilder,
I think I've finally been talked out of my deep carbon wheel fetish.
I want to have a wheelset built that is stiff and light (~1700g?) and under $450 when it's all said and done.
I figure Novatec hubs is a good place to start but I have no idea where to look for rims. There seems to be a million options in the 400 +/- 20g range. I like the idea of a low spoke count but I'm not sure how realistic that is considering I want it to be stiff and under $450. I've yet to find a low spoke count track hub that isn't ~$100.
Edit: While I was typing this, you answered me in another thread: A23 or Aerohead.
I read the descriptions for both on the rg website. If I plan on using 23c tires, would you recommend the A23s or Aeroheads? I tried searching on the topic but didn't find much.
I think I've finally been talked out of my deep carbon wheel fetish.
I want to have a wheelset built that is stiff and light (~1700g?) and under $450 when it's all said and done.
I figure Novatec hubs is a good place to start but I have no idea where to look for rims. There seems to be a million options in the 400 +/- 20g range. I like the idea of a low spoke count but I'm not sure how realistic that is considering I want it to be stiff and under $450. I've yet to find a low spoke count track hub that isn't ~$100.
Edit: While I was typing this, you answered me in another thread: A23 or Aerohead.
I read the descriptions for both on the rg website. If I plan on using 23c tires, would you recommend the A23s or Aeroheads? I tried searching on the topic but didn't find much.
Last edited by EpicSchwinn; 10-28-12 at 12:07 PM.
#5997
Thread Starter
Your cog is slipping.



Joined: May 2009
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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
Personally, I would go for A23s.
The set of A23/Novatecs I just built for Mumonkan - laced 2X using Sapim Lasers and finished with red Veloplugs - weigh 892g front/950g rear.
The set of A23/Novatecs I just built for Mumonkan - laced 2X using Sapim Lasers and finished with red Veloplugs - weigh 892g front/950g rear.
#5998
Check out IRD cadence rims. 60 grams lighter per rim than a23's.
I've had really good luck building them.
I've had really good luck building them.
Last edited by johnnytheboy; 10-28-12 at 02:57 PM.
#5999
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Your cog is slipping.



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From: Beverly MA
Bikes: EAI Bareknuckle
You mean IRD Cadence?
Personally, I'd still rather use a wider rim and suffer the whopping 60g weight penatly per wheel.
Personally, I'd still rather use a wider rim and suffer the whopping 60g weight penatly per wheel.
#6000
Yes. Cadence.
120g (1/4lb) is a lot to some people, and I know I'll get flamed for saying this but I'm not convinced the wider platform is way to go. I've seen a lot of crashes the corners during crits where a rider was on belgiums or a23s......
Last edited by johnnytheboy; 10-28-12 at 03:00 PM.



