I just got one. They are new - just available last week. Serial number indicates they are Waterford's - Ben's confirmed it. Blows away the Tawain made frames in quality. Yeah, it's got braze-ons - it's a singlespeed/fixed gear road bike, not a Track Bike. The orange powdercoat is a sweet color.
I first seen these at a local 'Cross race where Russell from Ben's was racing one - try that on the Bianchi Pista.

I win!

Forget about fenders. ;) I just looked again, and there's no sort of chainstay bridge. Does anyone think that'd lead to problems? (but then again, it IS a Waterford...)
For cyclocrossing, I'd want something that took at least a 35c. Hmm.....

Oh damn... $350 for a Waterford frame. I almost want one. Ok, I do want one.

But I don't have the money and I like my current frame and I want a steeper geometry, not slacker.... Relax. Breath deeply.

That orange is dead sexy (which I guess is why my bike's orange). And for the record, it *does* look good with my complexion.

Actually it fills a gap. Jamie Roy is Alu, Mark V is track, this is Steel and Road. Cool. Ill stick with my Jamie Roy cause I have no dislikes, if Im going to get another bike its going to be a Tommasini.

Milo

i wish i wasn't as drunk as i am right now. frozen jackfruit daquiri... so there are three bikes being dicussed here, in this thread... i like the crazy lugged road frame the best.
that chrome thing from the 1940's(?) is sick. i wish the person with the cat avatar would stop creating so much desire in me. i am tempted to bid because have a crazy LBS here in town that would solve any quandry and 54cm is my size. oh does it feel nice.


hmmm,
on second glance, alcohol makes anything look good.

and anybody sound dumb(erer), even if hey started out dumb.

hic...

How coud there be a bid of 127.50 (Sixday) with nine bids and when you check out the bid history not have 127.5o listed? Other sixday bids and the winning $315.87, but not that one.

What am i missing?

you're missing this:

i think i know what your talking about there, was no bid for 127.50 listed. sounds like a vagely interesting question, how the ebay bidding system works.

No, I got that. I understand other "max automatic bids" can come in. I just don't know why one shows up ( $127.50) and then doesn't show up.

Just curious.

Let's say bidder A is currently winning with a bid of $126.50. Bidder B comes along and sets their max at $350. This is enough to beat bidder A's bid with a bid of $127.50, which you saw. In comes bidder C and says their max is $314.87, so bidder's B's bid gets bumped up to $315.87, beating C's bid, staying under their bid cap of $350, and taking the auction. You don't see $127.50 because their bid ended up getting increased automatically. It wasn't really a bid to begin with, more of a provisional bid.

that's what I said.

I know.

San Rensho is not from Tiawan. It is from Japan. 3Rensho was now way that low on the charts of frame builders.

S/F,
CEYA!

nono..thats a misunderstanding. I was refering to the orange bike in the first post as possibly
being a taiwan welded frame with some US finishing. but it has been clarified that its a
waterford. the Rensho was just an example that you can get a bike with style for a similar price.

Don't worry , I emailed a 3Rensho expert and was told it maynot be a 3Rensho at all. I will follow up.

S/F,
CEYA!

That thing costs less than my raw materials. I think that's a good indication.

So I got to see one up close and talk to the owner (Dennis I believe - from Ben's Bike EDIT Russell was the name here. I blame the whiskey). Cool guy, sweet looking bike, definitely NOT track. A coupla pics:

Bike is made in Japan with parts from 3Rensho parts. NJS on a road bike was the give away. just a little update.

S/F,
CEYA!

How did that bike suddenly become a Waterford? Just because its from Wisconsin? Theres a million little shops building frames... I don't see how that one is necessarily any different.

All the visual learners out there might want to take a look at this:

http://www.fixedgeargallery.com/2004/g/schneider.htm

If there was any doubt as to whether that orange would be dead sexy with black components, well, I think that's been cleared up now. Yum...

Read earlier in this thread. Ben's confirmed and it's a Waterford serial number. What else do you need?

OOooohhhhhhhhh.. wait.. lemme check.. yep.. I just soiled myself. This will be my winter build-up project. Black and orange..it'll be called "The Great Pumpkin".

You're free to call it that if you like, but I just want to poin out that there's already one here by that name: http://www.bikeforums.net/showpost.p...7&postcount=14

It won't have a new name for at least a few months (whenever I have to retape the bars, I'm going blue to match my new saddle and toe straps...at that point, I'll abdicate in favor of something more appropriate. ;) )

that will be the colour code for my next bike (i hope)

:)

For the record - our frames are made specifically for us by Waterford. We are the only place you can get one.

~ Russell Jobs
Ben's Cycles / Milwaukee Bicycle Co.
www.benscycle.com

Yes, nice colors on that rocket. Unfortunately, it should be noted that it's not a fixed-gear. Heck, it's not even a singlespeed:

I don't know about you, but I'm counting (4 strap-on boosters x 4 chambers per booster) + second stage + 3rd stage = at least 18 separate "gears" on this baby. And furthermore, were one to try and convert a rocket such as this one into a fixie or singlespeed, the combination of Russian and French threads would undoubtedly cause a nightmare trying to find a suitable bottom bracket.

So yes, a cool ride, but it really belongs in the Bike Forums > Bike Forums > International Launch Vehicles forum, not here.

;)

uuhu...strap-ons... ;)

Using 'Go to last post' link, seeing 'strap-ons' without scrolling up.....definitely makes my imaginaiton wander...

yeah, i had the same reaction!