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pavement_nyc 11-09-11 08:35 PM

Clips/Straps
 
Is there anything that's as easy to adjust on the go as Hold Fast, but cheaper and maybe a bit more grippy?

homebrewk 11-09-11 08:42 PM

Try this:

http://bit.ly/sC4Vaf

But seriously:

http://www.retro-gression.com/produc...s-straps-combo

http://www.retro-gression.com/produc...twisted-pedals

Kayce 11-09-11 08:42 PM

Lots of companies have ripped of Hold fast, theyre pretty easy to find. Most people here will say get the Retrogression ones.

pkpyro 11-10-11 12:18 AM

really cheap?
MEC plastic cage + nylon straps. $10 including straps and taxes.
MEC steel cage + leather straps. $15 including straps and taxes.

But the easiness to adjust depends on how you thread your straps. I can adjust my nylon straps faster than anyone can their hold fasts.

Jaytron 11-10-11 12:45 AM


Originally Posted by pkpyro (Post 13475693)
really cheap?
MEC plastic cage + nylon straps. $10 including straps and taxes.
MEC steel cage + leather straps. $15 including straps and taxes.

But the easiness to adjust depends on how you thread your straps. I can adjust my nylon straps faster than anyone can their hold fasts.

MEC is a canadian company no? Do they ship to the US at a decent price?

pkpyro 11-10-11 12:48 AM


Originally Posted by Jaytron (Post 13475727)
MEC is a canadian company no? Do they ship to the US at a decent price?

They ship at better prices than US companies charge for Canadian customers. Never really had to ship US, but I suppose it wouldn't be more than $10 for a set of clips / straps, would it?

Though with shipping costs in consideration, it'd be probably better to just hit up a LBS and get some decent quality ones for $20~ if your LBS has such.

pavement_nyc 11-10-11 09:16 PM

Ok guys, maybe I wasn't clear, by "on the go" I mean literally WHILE I AM RIDING. So no, not standard clips + straps

Robofunc 11-10-11 10:15 PM

I adjust my standard clips and straps while riding. It's easy.

carleton 11-10-11 10:38 PM


Originally Posted by pavement_nyc (Post 13475018)
Is there anything that's as easy to adjust on the go as Hold Fast, but cheaper and maybe a bit more grippy?


Originally Posted by pkpyro (Post 13475693)
really cheap?
MEC plastic cage + nylon straps. $10 including straps and taxes.
MEC steel cage + leather straps. $15 including straps and taxes.

But the easiness to adjust depends on how you thread your straps. I can adjust my nylon straps faster than anyone can their hold fasts.


Originally Posted by pavement_nyc (Post 13479775)
Ok guys, maybe I wasn't clear, by "on the go" I mean literally WHILE I AM RIDING. So no, not standard clips + straps

Man, you are asking a lot. Either:

- Deal with the limitations of velcro straps being hard to adjust.
- Deal with flimsy nylon straps
- Invest (meaning actually spend money) in some quality straps like Toshi or something of similar quality. Not the cheap, single ply leather stuff.
- Invest in clipless pedals and shoes. As they say, once you go clipless, you don't go back to clips and straps. This is true for most people.

Clipless is a superior system in several ways, but does involve you changing shoes. The longer you spend on the bike (ride time) the more valuable they become. It's like this:

RIDE TIME: 5 minutes -------------------- 30 minutes --------- 1 hour ------ 2 hours --- 2+ hours
PEDAL TYPE: Platform --- Clips & Straps --- MTB Pedals --- Road Pedals ---------------------------

This isn't an exact correlation. It's a thing to express a point.

Basically, if you are riding clips and straps for 15 minutes or less at a time, don't complain. if you are riding clips and straps for more than 15-30 minutes at a time, don't complain...upgrade.

Again, these aren't hard-n-fast rules. Just something to think about.

Jaytron 11-10-11 11:01 PM


Originally Posted by pavement_nyc (Post 13479775)
Ok guys, maybe I wasn't clear, by "on the go" I mean literally WHILE I AM RIDING. So no, not standard clips + straps

How can you adjust straps, but not clips+straps while riding? I don't understand.

pkpyro 11-11-11 01:11 AM


Originally Posted by Jaytron (Post 13480097)
How can you adjust straps, but not clips+straps while riding? I don't understand.

+1
I've never seen a fixed gear rider adjust their velcro straps while "on the go" at a reasonable speed. In fact, the downtime of them awkwardly fumbling down at every revolution to adjust would be probably made up if you adjusted it then jumped on the bike. That being said, I guess it's more reasonable for SS... but I don't really see the need for straps like Hold Fast if you're riding SS.

Regular clips + straps, again, depends on how you thread it. I adjust and fasten mine as I'm riding my FG to work or to school because I change my shoes often (casual shoes, dress shoes, runnerse, converse, tricking shoes) and I don't have any problems.

LesterOfPuppets 11-11-11 01:31 AM

Yep, if you've got 'em threaded right, clips and straps are easy to adjust on the go. Just grab the strap at the top of your stroke and it'll tighten on the downstroke. I used to run straps with buttons but I'd too often get the straps too tight because I'd have too good a grip on the button, plain strap end tends to let go when the straps at just the right tension for me.

Before the stoplight, just reach down and tap the buckle real quick.

Scrodzilla 11-11-11 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by pavement_nyc (Post 13479775)
Ok guys, maybe I wasn't clear, by "on the go" I mean literally WHILE I AM RIDING. So basically, something which defies the laws of physics and doesn't exist in the actual world.

fixed.

carleton 11-11-11 09:15 AM

I adjust my Toshi straps when I'm riding at the track. You have to ride slowly, though.

Scrodzilla 11-11-11 09:25 AM

I adjust my doubles while riding too. I just think the OP has a different mindset - especially considering that typical straps are much easier to adjust "on the go" than any velcro-type straps ever will be.

TejanoTrackie 11-11-11 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by carleton (Post 13480947)
I adjust my Toshi straps when I'm riding at the track. You have to ride slowly, though.

Yes, on the track where you are not constantly starting and stopping. As you roll off on the infield or apron, you tighten the straps just once. Then, as you exit the track, you loosen the straps just once. When riding in urban traffic with lots of starting and stopping, this is too much of a hassle IMO. Sometimes you have to stop suddenly, and don't have time to loosen the straps to remove your foot, which results in a tipover. Anyways, I use clipless on all but one of my FG bikes, which uses wide velcro straps and bmx platform pedals so I can use normal shoes. I don't adjust the velcro straps, just have them loose enough so I can get my shoes in. It's not as secure as clipless, of course, but good enough for normal around town use.

Scrodzilla 11-11-11 09:41 AM

I've never had to adjust my straps while in traffic. In the first 20 feet as I'm rolling away from my house (or wherever), I adjust my straps if need be and go.

homebrewk 11-11-11 10:33 AM

This conversation makes me want clips and straps... I just can't get over disengaging my foot quickly.

TejanoTrackie 11-11-11 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by Scrodzilla (Post 13481048)
I've never had to adjust my straps while in traffic. In the first 20 feet as I'm rolling away from my house (or wherever), I adjust my straps if need be and go.

Not everyone can do sweet tarck stands.

Scrodzilla 11-11-11 11:06 AM

I mentioned nothing about track stands.

jimmytango 11-11-11 11:12 AM

A track stand isn't necessary. Just keep them loose enough to be able to pop your foot out. It results in the loss of a little power transfer, but on the street do you really need full power?

Kayce 11-11-11 11:21 AM

Pulling up adds little power to your pedaling, the real loss in running loose straps is when using them to pull up to slow down or stop.

TejanoTrackie 11-11-11 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by Kayce (Post 13481475)
Pulling up adds little power to your pedaling.

When sitting I agree, however, when standing such as climbing or starting off from a stop, it does make a significant difference.

pkpyro 11-11-11 08:37 PM

I have to wonder what kind of riding you do when you need maximum efficiency with your FG on city streets, don't bother to learn track stands and are damn fixated on riding velcro.

mauricelm 11-11-11 09:23 PM

what?


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